RE: Roots Below Coal

> -----Original Message-----
> From: bpayne15@juno.com [mailto:bpayne15@juno.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:35 PM

> It's not the same thing. Pencils fall through air, roots float in water.
> Tree trunks get waterlogged at the root end first and rotate from a
> horizontal to vertical floating position, and then with continued
> waterlogging sink to the bottom, and maintain their vertical orientation
> while being buried. I am suggesting that roots may do the same thing,
> i.e., float vertically to the bottom and get buried. This interpretation
> is supported by the common root-termination plane of the thin, dark bed.

Sorry, Bill, I don't buy this. Roots should be equally waterlogged and thus
not float on their tips. Show me a modern example of this!
>
> > But you are extrapolating from Paleozoic coal to coal you haven't
> studied.
> > You may or may not be correct, but you can't claim it until you examine
> it.
>
> The roots and banding (in the coal fragment) are identical to what I have
> studied. It's all part of the same flood process.

Pure assumption lacking any evidence. You assume the flood and then filter
all data to fit the idea of a flood. That is a very bad approach to
science.

> Of course a single flood event does require that the geologic time scale
> get telescoped by 200 million years to fit the Pennsylvannian and
> Cretaceous into the same event. Darn! Or I guess we could have multiple
> floods: one for the Pennsylvannian, one for the late Permian for
> Michael's Australian volcanic partings, and another for the Canadian
> Cretaceous coal, and other floods for all the other coals of different
> ages. As Michael has told us by his silence, he and I know these
> features are the result of a deluge. Pick your poison, Michael, how many
> times do you want to flood the earth?

The fact that you have to have multiple floods rules out the Biblical flood.

> > And why are none horizontal???? Some should be just by virtue of
> > chance.
>
> Either of us could explain horizontal roots. That wouldn't prove
> anything either way.

Cop out!

I think we have beaten this topic to death enough for this time. You can
have the last word.
Received on Thu Dec 4 22:46:51 2003