Re: Predictions

From: Brian Harper (harper.10@osu.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 15 2003 - 15:00:31 EDT

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    At 08:03 PM 10/14/2003 -0400, Dawsonzhu@aol.com wrote:

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    On the other hand, trying to minimize the number
    of parameters as much as possible does help me see how one might be able
    to test this at least semi-analytically.  But the complexity of the problem is and
    remains challenging to show clearly.

    Yes this is certainly the case. But let me elaborate a little more. I am assuming that the structure itself is not changing rapidly with time. I'm also only considering biomechanical type performance features. These could be determined objectively from the structure itself. An example would be the strength of one of Raups shells. We could now let S(W,D,T) be the strength expressed in terms of Raup's three parameters. One could then form an hypothesis regarding whether  shapes observed in nature are the result of natural selection. One might conclude that they are if you see that the real shells are grouped in areas with greatest strength. Of course, the skeptic may be saying at this point that this is a very natural prediction of ID. Why wouldn't the designer select those shell geometries that maximized the strength? Indeed. But the problem is (and I have asked this several times) that I am unable to find any IDist willing to make a prediction based on optimality of form with respect to function.

    But let me repeat again that you make a good point. Most cases are probably too complex to analyze in this way. But this example also provides at least a thought experiment that shows that natural selection is not a tautology. It is possible to think of fitness parameters (strength) that can be defined objectively in terms of the structure and independent of survival.



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