Re: Fw: Wells and Molecular Phylogenies

From: Walter Hicks (wallyshoes@mindspring.com)
Date: Tue Oct 28 2003 - 09:51:01 EST

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    Robert Schneider wrote:.

    > >
    > >
    > I don't think the explanation for the falsehoods that are regularly
    > perpetrated by YECs is a simple as Walt puts it. I think there is a kind of
    > wrong-headedness in some YEC spokesmen and debaters that has led them to
    > think that since they are right, they may say anything in order to defend or
    > promote their creation science and cast aspersions on good science that
    > provides evidence for an ancient earth and evolution. People who will say
    > anything have lost a sense of truth and falsehood, but that does not make
    > them any less responsible for their falsehoods. When is a falsehood not a
    > lie? Not when it is the means that the end justifies. When is perpetrating
    > falsehoods to secure the ends not malice? That's a hard one for me to sort
    > out.
    >
    > Bob

    It seems to me that the current situation is as bad as it can get. Namely, that
    there really is a war between the YECs and the non YECs on this list. Given
    this, Satan has already won. Now is there an alternative?

    I would suggest that there is. Instead of the "I am right and you are wrong"
    debate and the "take no prisoners" attitude, it should be possible to have an
    intelligent dialog. It could start on this list (IMO).

    There are 2 competing world views and two competing notions of the consequences
    of "the other guy's" world view. Am I the only one who can sympathize with both
    sides? Instead of beating each other over the head could we not discuss the
    problem like intelligent Christians -- or does everyone think that it is too
    far gone? perhaps Terry could even set up a separate list where those who are
    interested could discuss without the flak from the rest of the group. Any
    takers?

    Walt 

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Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com>

    In any consistent theory, there must
exist true but not provable statements.
(Godel's Theorem)

    You can only find the truth with logic
If you have already found the truth
without it. (G.K. Chesterton)
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