From: gordon brown (gbrown@euclid.colorado.edu)
Date: Sat Oct 25 2003 - 15:04:26 EDT
I don't know how representative this list is of whatever entire list it
was taken from, but I would expect that any such list would show an
inverse correlation between the likelihood that someone would take the ICR
line and the relevance of his field of expertise to the scientific issues
involved. For anyone who would reflect on this, it should have an effect
opposite to what the ICR would want people to get from such a list.
Gordon Brown
Department of Mathematics
University of Colorado
Boulder, CO 80309-0395
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, John W Burgeson wrote:
> What puzzles me is the number of purportedly respectable academics who
> support young earth creation-- specifically ICR.
>
> Among this roster of shame are these gentlemen:
>
> Edward Blick, Ph.D., Professor of petroleum Engineering, Oklahoma
> University. Glenn -- this is your field. How does Blick support his
> stance and his academic life? How do people graduating from Oklahoma
> University get along in your field?
>
> David Boylan, Ph.D, Professor of Chemical Engineering, Iowa State
> University.
>
> Malcom Cutchins, Ph.D, Professor of Aerospace Engineering, Auburn
> University. This one amazes me, for the YEC mishmash I have read has much
> to say about the "false findings" of the space program. I wonder if any
> of our astronauts ever studied under this person?
>
> Robert Eckel, Ph.D, Professor of Medicine, University of Colorado. I must
> check out my doctor's diploma next time I'm there -- if he graduated from
> the U of C I may have to ask him some questions. Can a YEC practice
> modern medicine? How might the diagnosis of a YEC physician differ from
> that of a normal doctor?
>
> Carl Fliermans, Ph.D, Microbial Ecologist, Westinghouse Corporation. Um.
> What new insights might a YEC ecologist bring to the profession? Would he
> bring any at al?
>
> Joseph Henson, Ph.D, Chair of the Science Division at Bob Jones
> University. I'll bet science courses are a hoot there!
> How on earth do graduates find real jobs? maybe at the Coors Brewing
> Company here in Colorado -- I understand that family has funded stuff
> like the YEC nonsense.
>
> Gailen Marshall Jr., Ph.D, M.D., Director of Allergy & Clinical
> Immunology, University of Texas (Houston). Like the late physicist Thomas
> Barnes, who labored for the U of Texas El Paso, only this guy treats
> people for real problems. Anyone on this list want to consult him?
>
> David Menton, Ph.D, Professor of Anatomy, Wisconsin University. Someone
> up in cheese country might tell this guy that men do NOT have one fewer
> rib than women.
>
> John Oller, Ph.D, Head of Dept of Communicative Disorders, University of
> SW Louisiana. Gee, am I glad my son moved out of Louisiana last year!
> Although Texas has its own share of strange people, as the next entry
> will show.
>
> Ker Thompson, Ph.D, Professor of Geophysics, Baylor University. Another
> in your field, Glen, and close to where you work. Maybe you need a
> consultant on your next study. I'm sure he would be interested.
>
> Guys -- these are real people. They hold what are, to almost all of us,
> views which denigrate both the scientific traditions we revere, and many
> of the findings of our sciences.
>
> They need to be loved as fellow Christians; their IDEAS need to be
> exposed for the frauds they are.
>
> But while we fiddle around, and sometimes win a few, they are winning the
> war. And their students, in many cases, are turning from the faith when
> the fraud is exposed; it is hard for me to blame them.
>
> Maybe I'm wrong. maybe the YECers are NOT winning. But I've asserted such
> on this list (and elsewhere) many times; I don't recall a rebuttal. So
> what happens when (or if) they do win?
>
> I fear for our civilization.
>
> Burgy
>
> www.burgy.50megs.com
>
>
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