Re: Creationism in Denver

From: Cmekve@aol.com
Date: Sun Oct 19 2003 - 23:56:33 EDT

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    In a message dated 10/19/2003 12:09:45 PM Mountain Standard Time,
    jwburgeson@juno.com writes:

    > It seems as if we in the wild wild west are not immune either to the YEC
    > preachers. here is part of a note from Denver, Colorado.
    >
    > B.C. Tours offers a politically incorrect view of Denver.
    > Holy Moses!
    >
    > "In the beginning, the Big Bang created the heavens and the earth. Also,
    > camels and lions were never immortal, and neither were humans, who
    > actually used to be monkeys. Oh, and get this: The Earth is billions of
    > years old, not six thousand, like the Bible tells us. "
    >
    > Tyson Thorne bit his lip to keep from laughing while listening to his
    > seventh-grade science teacher drill heretical ideas into the
    > impressionable minds of his classmates at Lakewood's Creighton Junior
    > High School. It was 1983, and Thorne knew better.
    >
    > "I grew up in a home that was well-based in the Bible, and my parents did
    > a good job of discussing with me what I learned in school that day, and
    > if there were problems with what I was taught, they corrected those
    > problems," he says.
    > "They instructed me to learn my lessons and to be respectful in class,
    > but to always know in my heart that science isn't infallible; the word of
    > God is."
    >
    > When it came time to take his science midterm exam, Thorne faced a
    > dilemma. Below the first question on the multiple-choice test -- "How did
    > the universe begin?" -- he did not find the answer which he knew to be
    > true: God did it.
    > "I didn't want to fail the exam, but I didn't want to lie, either," he
    > remembers. "So I circled the answer I knew she wanted, which was the Big
    > Bang theory, and then I just wrote her a little note in the margin that
    > said, 'Well, I know what you've taught us, so this is what I circled, but
    > I know better, because God created the universe' And that's what I did
    > all the way down the test. I circled the answers I knew she wanted, and
    > then I wrote the true answers next to every question."
    >
    > Thorne passed the test, but his teacher pulled him aside a few days later
    > and suggested that he try to avoid taking science classes in the future.
    > He took her advice. Today he is a tour guide (in a white lab coat) with
    > Denver's B.C. Tours. The B.C. stands for "Biblically Correct;" they
    > conduct about 150 tours of major Colorado attractions every year.
    >
    > Over a three-day period in May that coincided with a Christian Home
    > Educators conference, B.C. Tours shepherded more than 1,000 home-schooled
    > children through the Denver Museum of Nature &Science, also known in a
    > B.C. Tours pamphlet as the "Temple of Doom."
    >
    > Divided into small groups, the kids listened as tour guides detailed a
    > defiantly alternative, fundamentalist view of the museum's exhibits --
    > one in which every word in the Bible is taken as the literal truth.
    >
    > The children learned that humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time,
    > that a Tyrannosaurus Rex frolicked with Adam and Eve in the Garden of
    > Eden, that radiometric- and carbon-dating methods are frauds, that
    > evolution is a lie and that when God says in the Bible that He made our
    > world in six days, He means just that: six 24-hour days.
    >
    > The B.C. Tours guides also denounced scientific creationism -- the
    > middle-ground concept that evolution occurred roughly as modern science
    > says it did, but only by virtue of God designing the Earth's system
    > software and then booting it up on the cosmic mainframe. The men in white
    > lab coats instructed the children that scientific creationism is an
    > unholy alliance of incompatible beliefs.
    >
    > "You have a key misunderstanding of the character of God if you believe
    > in any form of evolution as a Christian, because everything that
    > evolution purports to be true is pretty much the opposite of what the
    > Bible tells us really happened," explains Thorne. "According to
    > evolution, life began in the sea. According to the Bible, it began on
    > land. According to evolution, it took billions of years for this world to
    > develop. According to the Bible, it took six days. Evolution tells us
    > that the Earth was originally all land, that it was molten rock, and that
    > it had to rain for hundreds of thousands of years until we had oceans and
    > streams and rivers. The Bible says that, in the beginning, the Earth was
    > all water. It simply doesn't make any sense to try and fit science and
    > creationism together. To make a case for scientific creationism, you have
    > to pick and choose your way through the Bible, deciding as you go along
    > what's true and what's poetic allegory. Who are you to set yourself up in
    > judgment over the word of God?"
    >
    > And if you believe what God's telling you, every word of it, then you
    > believe that Jonah was actually swallowed by a whale, that Joshua
    > actually made the sun stand still and that Adam actually lived to be 930
    > years old. And if you're a true believer, you have to accept that your
    > loving God committed genocide.
    >
    > "That's true," says Thorne. "God told the Israelites when they moved into
    > the land to wipe out everybody, to spare no one, not even their cattle.
    > Why did he do that? I don't know. That's God's call. In that case,
    > genocide was obviously the right thing to do, because God commanded it.
    > I'm not willing to set it aside and say, 'Well, that part of the Bible is
    > patently untrue, because a loving God would never do that.' I don't
    > presume to lecture God."
    >
    > Thorne likes to say he lives by the example of the Apostle Paul, a single
    > man who wandered the earth visiting the temples of the heathens, where he
    > would preach the word of the one true God. "Places like science museums
    > and zoos are the equivalent temples of our modern culture," he says.
    > "They are where creatures are worshiped instead of their creator, where
    > the work of the hands of man is worshiped over the work of God and where
    > lies are worshiped as truth."
    >
    > Friends, the YEC movement continues to prosper and grow. as home
    > schooling, of which I generally approve, increases, the YEC movement is
    > feeding on it. At what point will the YEC movement be able to declare
    > victory? I suggest that that day is only a few years off. How will we
    > know it has arrived? Perhaps when we have a presidential candidate
    > directly and forcefully argue for it, and all over this country millions
    > of poorly informed citizens rise as one to "establish God" (their god) in
    > the White House.
    >
    > Sorry for the ranting. But I see we are heading for REAL trouble in this
    > country. And I've got to holler about it.
    >
    > Burgy
    >
    > www.burgy.50megs.com
    >
    >

    Burgy-
    These guys were featured in an article in Westword a few months ago. It's all
    rather pathetic. It speaks volumes to the fact that the only thing YEC knows
    less about than science is theology.

    Karl
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    Karl V. Evans
    cmekve@aol.com



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