From: bpayne15@juno.com
Date: Fri Oct 17 2003 - 21:04:22 EDT
On Thu, 16 Oct 2003 00:22:43 -0400 Dick Fischer
<dickfischer@earthlink.net> writes:
Bill Payne wrote:
There you go Dick; if you lust after multiple women then, since God
allowed you to lust He apparently wants you to lust. Don't fight it,
just let everything run its course and then blame it on God.
I think you made my point.
There's no think about it. Your point was ridiculous and I reinforced
it.
I cited the example of genetic diseases caused by genetic defects.
Deafness and blindness do not result normally from inherited bad genes.
Plus we can observe miscopied genes, broken genes, duplicated genes, and
pseudo genes directly. If you think God deliberately made them that way,
then you probably also think that God made a recent earth and universe
cleverly to look as if they were ancient. My God doesn't create defects
and then call the creation, "good." If yours does, then maybe we aren't
worshipping the same God.
You are splitting hairs and dodging the issue with your gene talk. Does
God create defects or not? Answer the question, Dick. Use Scripture,
not your philosophical arguments.
I told you not long ago that I'm not YEC. You need to quit trying to
make me look stupid and speak to the issues.
Last time I checked, Dick, God called the creation good before the Fall,
and He put His creation under a curse at the time of the Fall. I don't
remember Him saying after the Fall that it was good. If you do, cite the
reference. If He didn't and if you persist in saying that God calls this
current state of the creation "good", then it appears that you are
tailoring your theology to your philosophy, independent of and contrary
to Scripture. Scripture says: "For we know that the whole creation
groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." (Romans 8:22) This
state of travail is the direct result of the curse by God in Genesis 3.
According to Scripture, God is responsible for our suffering. If you
disagree with that statement, show me from Scripture where I am wrong.
Bill
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