From: Don Winterstein (dfwinterstein@msn.com)
Date: Fri Oct 17 2003 - 03:50:51 EDT
David Campbell wrote:
"If God sometimes intervenes to fix up biochemical systems, why does He not do so in the case of genetic disorders? Note that this is not a very strong argument against God's involvement; if He determines (or influences) all things, but chooses to primarily run things using ordinary means, then the occurrence of mutations in no way contradicts His involvement. Only if we are expecting Johnson-style fingerprints all over everything does the lack of such prints on genetic disease become a problem." [Coloring mine.]
This point deserves emphasis. Unless we know God's motives, it is presumptuous to question God's failure to act in particular ways that we deem beneficial. It is clear that God wants the world to appear as though it functions most of the time independently of his special interventions, but this desire for the appearance of independence in no way rules out the possibility of his special intervention from time to time. His desire for the appearance of independence would be motive enough for making any such special intervention humanly undetectable. If God thinks this way, then the search for ID is likely doomed to fail even though God may have intervened many times.
A world where God intervenes from time to time to effect course corrections is less elegant that one that is sufficiently well-gifted to function in complete independence, but where is it written that elegance rules?
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: bivalve
To: asa@calvin.edu
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: Genetic Blunders
Whether one thinks that God is in some way responsible for genetic problems is more closely correlated with one's appraoch to predestination and free will than to evolutionary issues.
However, I think that any position on this still raises problems for the ID approach, as Dick noted. If God sometimes intervenes to fix up biochemical systems, why does He not do so in the case of genetic disorders? Note that this is not a very strong argument against God's involvement; if He determines (or influences) all things, but chooses to primarily run things using ordinary means, then the occurence of mutations in no way contradicts His involvement. Only if we are expecting Johnson-style fingerprints all over everything does the lack of such prints on genetic disease become a problem.
The topic of the level of God's control over creation also ties to the old discussion on process theology. Under a process or process-like scenario, can creation coerce the creator?
Dr. David Campbell
Old Seashells
University of Alabama
Biodiversity & Systematics
Dept. Biological Sciences
Box 870345
Tuscaloosa, AL 35487-0345 USA
bivalve@mail.davidson.alumlink.com
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