Re: Questions to Allen Roy

From: George Murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Fri Oct 10 2003 - 16:51:22 EDT

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    allenroy wrote:
    >
    > Walter Hicks wrote:
    >
    > >> Glenn's assessment is probably correct in that no fact or data could ever change your view. If I am wrong,
    > >> could you tell me what data might? If I am not wrong, then what is the purpose behind any discussion?
    > >>
    > > You have ignored it twice.
    >
    > I have said many times here that there is a BIG difference between raw data and
    > data that has been interpreted within a paradigm. Nearly all of the data Morton
    > uses is interpretation within Naturalism. Do I ever, ever, ever take such
    > interpreted data at face value? Never. The raw data that is beneath the
    > interpreted data must be found and then interpreted within a Creationary
    > Cataclysmic paradigm. I do not reinterpret the Bible to fit data interpreted
    > within naturalism. I start with the Bible and then look at raw data and
    > interpret it within the Biblical paradigm. The Bible ALWAYS comes first. The
    > data must be interpreted within it. This is the very thing that the early
    > Christian scientists/naturalists of the 16, 17 and 18th Centuries either forgot
    > or became persuaded that they had to set aside their belief system. And by
    > setting aside their belief system, they then accepted, likely unknowingly, the
    > atheistic system of Naturalism by default. Science is not neutral and has never
    > been neutral. There is no such thing as neutral empirical data. All data is
    > interpreted whether one even knows it or not. Why do you think I posted the
    > stuff by Del Ratszch?......................

    Allen -
            You're right that all reported data involves some degree of interpretation. But
    you're wrong in thinking that the Bible can be read without interpretation. You
    apparently think that you can "start with the Bible" as raw data, thus running afoul of
    the same error whcih you note in connection with the data of the natural sciences.

                                                            Shalom,
                                                            George

    George L. Murphy
    gmurphy@raex.com
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/

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