RE: Methodological naturalism versus philosophical naturalism, from re: Phillip Johnson

From: douglas.hayworth@perbio.com
Date: Fri Oct 10 2003 - 09:31:57 EDT

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    Moorad, see my note below your comment:

                                                                                                                          
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    Moorad said:
    An e-mail may be ?read? by a purely physical device. However, the true
    content of the message is not accessible to such a device. It takes another
    conscious, rational being as the writer to determine the true content of
    the message. These properties of humans are not accessible to purely
    physical devices and may be classified as non-physical. I may not need to
    consult the Holy Spirit to do the reading and writing of messages. However,
    it may be that our ability, for instance, to discern nature is made
    possible and does involve the feature of man of being created in the image
    of God.

    Doug's comment:
    Yes, you're right. This is how natural science and Christian theology are
    alike: they both require thinking rational beings that can observe,
    interpret, and communicate (description) the interpretation. They are
    alternative, complementary modes of describing the same reality. The
    purpose of natural science is to make descriptions in terms of purely
    material mechanisms and properties; therefore, methodological naturalism
    (MN) is its only appropriate language. Theology (also a science that
    involves interpretation and description, though we do believe that we can
    have the aid of God's Spirit to "see" with spiritual eyes more clearly)
    looks at the same reality that natural science does, but has a different
    purpose and so also requires a different language of description.

    BTW, nice post David. One wonders why the validity of MN is so difficult
    for people to understand and accept.



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