From: Cmekve@aol.com
Date: Tue Oct 07 2003 - 20:32:15 EDT
In a message dated 10/7/2003 3:17:13 PM Mountain Standard Time,
gmurphy@raex.com writes:
[snip]
> What I had said was that one can make a good case from scripture that the
> Incarnation was not sinmply contingent upon human sin but was God's purpose
> for creation
> from the beginning - as Ephesians 1:10 indicates. Would anybody like to
> discuss the
> relevance of the Ephesians text to the question without once again turning
> the
> conversation to Genesis?
>
[snip]
Wouldn't the Athanasian Creed have some relevance here? In speaking of
Christ it says, "One, not by the conversion of the Godhead into flesh but by taking
the manhood [sic] into God". If the church is the body of Christ (in more
than a metaphorical sense) and is joined to the Godhead via Christ, then fallen
or unfallen, humanity is destined for union with God. In this sense, the
Redemption was an additional step which God in love added to the process because
of our fallen nature. It seems to me that this is inherent in the Orthodox
concept of theosis -- certainly a cosmic concept in keeping with the scope of the
Ephesians passage.
Am I off base here?
Karl
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Karl V. Evans
cmekve@aol.com
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