Re: RATE

From: Jay Willingham (jaywillingham@cfl.rr.com)
Date: Tue Oct 07 2003 - 15:12:25 EDT

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    I paid close attention. I simply believe you cannot see the forest for the
    trees.

    To me the circumstantial evidence I pointed to in the literal text is more
    than sufficient to say the Lord and Adam and Eve had personal, face to face
    interaction prior to, and, as in the interaction with Cain, after the fall
    from grace.

    But I really do not know if this makes a whole lot of difference, especially
    when compared to the atonement string, so I will let you have the last word
    on this if you want it.

    As you do not believe Genesis 1-6 are allegory, what do you believe they
    are?

    Jay Willingham

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "George Murphy" <gmurphy@raex.com>

    > I will make one last try, since you don't seem to have paid close
    attention to
    > what has been said. The original claim was that, BEFORE the sin described
    in Genesis 3,
    > Adam & Eve walked & talked intimately with God in the garden. The
    question is not
    > whether Genesis 3 speaks of God walking in the garden, or whether it
    speaks of the man &
    > woman talking with God, AFTER they have sinned. It is whether they walked
    & talked with
    > God in the garden BEFORE they sinned. & Genesis does not say that they
    did. QED. If
    > you're going to be a biblical literalist, you have to pay close attention
    to what the
    > text says and to what it does NOT say.
    >
    > BTW, I have never said "that all of the early parts of Genesis are pure
    > allegory." I have never said that they are "allegory" at all.
    >
    > Shalom,
    > George
    >
    >
    >
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    >
    >
    >
    >
    > George L. Murphy
    > gmurphy@raex.com
    > http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
    >
    >



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