From: George Murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Sat Oct 04 2003 - 14:49:49 EDT
Walter Hicks wrote:
>
> George Murphy wrote:
>
> > Walter Hicks wrote:
> > >
> > > Michael Roberts wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Suggestion of apparent age of the earth are abhorrent as if God did that
> > > > then he is a liar and unworthy of worship. Period.
> > >
> > > Thinking about what God may or may not do is always presumptuous. However, being
> > > made in His image, maybe we can learn from those things which we ourselves do.
> > >
> > > Recently, we all received a post from the inventor of a sophisticated AI
> > > program. The AI are inserted into a program which has many separately generated
> > > parts. Beyond any doubt, the programmer did not start with a blank sheet of
> > > paper and generate the program one step at a time. He starts with certain
> > > building blocks and inserts the AI into them. It is not "apparent age" ---- it
> > > is a real program whichever way he does it.
> >
> > Walt - We've gone around on the "apparent age" idea before & I don't want to
> > belabor the matter, but your analogy here raises a flag. The point of traditional
> > doctrines of creation /ex nihilo/ is precisely that God _didn't_ have to start with
> > certain bulding blocks.
>
> Hey George!
>
> In my analogy the building blocks do not pop out of thin air! I am talking about this
> real world , George, not some flight of fancy into things that do not happen.
>
> God, of course, did create the universe ex nihilo ---- and the programmer had to
> personally write the code. The issue is not _whether_ God (or the programmer) did it, it
> is a question of _when_ God (or the programmer did it) and whether or not it has other
> "applications". You claim that God did it step by step from nothing to man and it was a
> once only operation. I don't accept that as a logical deduction from any rules I know
> ---- nor any implication from scripture. You are the theologian, but I persist in the
> belief that this is possible -- and others have (offline) agreed with me.
>
> You have your opinion -- but it is only that (an opinion)
>
> God could create a universe and apply it to many applications if He elected to do so.
> IMO it is egotistical to force fit a philosophy that elevates mankind to existence in a
> one and only creation of God and claim that it is the only possible viewpoint.
If I am "the theologian" why don't you pay any attention to what I say about
theology?
Shalom,
George
George L. Murphy
gmurphy@raex.com
http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/
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