From: Walter Hicks (wallyshoes@mindspring.com)
Date: Thu Oct 02 2003 - 14:13:07 EDT
George Murphy wrote:
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> First, I - & I think most others on this list - have no "rancor" toward YECs.
If (when) I see rancor, I'll bring to your attention.
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> I think that they're badly mistaken, often gullible, & in a few cases (e.g., Baugh)
> outright dishonest.
That, of course is bad. In the real world people who lie consistently are called liars -- except
friends of Burgy.
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> "Foo on Omphalos" is not sp much a "philosophical" as a "theological" position
> because it is based on beliefs about the character of God. (But it also has something
> to do with our understanding of science because that understanding makes it possible
> today to argue against [I do not say "refute"] the claim that could plausibly be made in
> Gosse's time, that creation necessarily entails apparent age.)
You say it well. It is a theological position and an argument. It is neither a scientific opinion
nor a refutation.
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> As far as "reaching out a hand is concerned" - well, scientifically. how do you
> compromise between 6000 and 4.5 x 10^9? Average them and call it 2,250,003,000 years?
> At the risk of being called a naive realist, this is is a case in which both can't be
> right.
That is not true, George. Both can be right. If the universe is a simulation with the history
either built in or from a "previous" development, then mankind could be created 6000 years ago and
placed on a planet with 4.5 x 10^9 years of history. It is theologically possible. It is just not
_your_ theology, that's all.
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> Theologically, I do not believe that a YEC is /ipsofacto/ non-Christian or
> defectively Christian (& that without withdrawing my statement that I think they're
> wrong). If one comes to church this Sunday I'll give him or her the Sacrament
> without hesitation. Are YECs willing to say the same things about those who accept an
> old earth?
Absolutely! In my church there is no restriction despite the large number of young earthers. I
know there are some churches where this happens, but I would wager that they represent a very
small fraction of those churches where the majority of members believe in a young earth.
Walt
-- =================================== Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com>In any consistent theory, there must exist true but not provable statements. (Godel's Theorem)
You can only find the truth with logic If you have already found the truth without it. (G.K. Chesterton) ===================================
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