From: Duff,Robert Joel (rjduff@uakron.edu)
Date: Wed Oct 01 2003 - 19:38:01 EDT
chopped some stuff from Burgy,
* >
* > My perception is that ICR, AOSA and AIG are using this
* research (?) as a
* > major new thrust to argue their YEC claims.
* >
* > ICR's "Impact #364" contains a somewhat technical (high
* school level)
* > analysis of Humphrey's claim by John Baumgardner, an ICR
* geophysicist.
* > Page iii of that monograph has a graphic which renames C14
* as "modern
* > carbon" and is clearly created by someone who never read
* Tufte's book on
* > how to make graphics.
* >
* > Comments?
*
* I took a quick look at the AIG claims. Nobody should
* take this seriously until
* it is published in refereed professional journals. That is
* not because there is
* anything magic about such journals, but because of the
* history of errors & dissimulation
* by YEC spokespersons. Of course they will continue to
* trumpet these claims even without
* such validation.
*
JD: Might I make another suggestion/challenge to the YEC folk. How about taking several of these manuscripts from RATE written for Creation Mag and others and submitting them to a variety of peer reviewed journals and then publish all the reviews to prove their point of bias. They have made many claims about the bias against them and what would happen if they tried to publish in these journals so they should want to demonstrate this bias as clearly as possible. But, I suspect we will never see a full set of reviews (possbily just parts of a single review that can be used to demonstrate a specific point) posted to any site in response to a specific manuscript as it would likely demonstrate exactly the opposite of what they think would happen. BTW, they shouldn't even settle for second rate journals with the data they claim to have but should settle for nothing less than Science or Nature.
It has been too easy for us to claim they should publish in refereed profession jounals and then have them respond with generic claims about biases. I think it is time to push for scientific evidence to back the claims rather than inuendo.
Joel
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