From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Mon Jul 28 2003 - 09:02:13 EDT
One is identified with that which one quotes. You are constantly quoting
those of other societies with other views and cultures and then dodging
criticism by saying, "I did not say that, someone else did."
Those who only want to introduce an alternate point of view generally
provide a statement contrasting the opinion of their source with their own
view or thesis. The fact that you do not do this, leads one to naturally
assume that you subscribe to the views which you tout.
Many of the things you state are highly inflammatory in today's society.
When one plays with fire, one shouldn't complain when it gets hot.
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To: michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk; jwburgeson@juno.com; gmurphy@raex.com
Cc: RDehaan237@aol.com; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: Sin?
In a message dated 7/24/03 12:30:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk writes:
The married couples with children are the first class
This statement by R Faussette in a recent post is sick and offensive,
implying that single people and those without children are second class.
This is a perversion of the Old Testament and has no basis in the NT.
I suppose Jesus was not first class as he was not married and had no
children!
Can we have less of your peculiar ravings about procreation - and we
could also do without the gay correspondence as well.
Michael
Do you know what I mean by first and second class? This is not a
perversion of the OT. Orthodox Jewry still clings to this proposition from
leviticus, no, they go further in that all non-Jews are "second class." why
would an accurate rendering of Leviticus be sick and offensive? I would
refer you to Maurice Lamm's Jewish way in Love and Marriage where Lamm
writes that women are like temple utensils, only sacred when in temple
service. I am repeating for you what the religious authorities of Judaism
say about their own scriptures upon which yours are based. If they are are
sick and offensive, it is to them you refer and not to me.
Jesus was a completely different story. All of his behavior was for you to
understand as an exercise and demonstration in self discipline. It was a
very special thing that ordinary beings are incapable of. I would not lump
Jesus in with the rest of us just to make an example of me.
I am not raving - you are - I am responding to bad arguments for the
liberalization and sexualization of Christianity, arguments which are touted
publicly and tenaciously clung to here on this list.
rich faussette
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