From: RFaussette@aol.com
Date: Mon Jul 21 2003 - 08:06:52 EDT
In a message dated 7/19/03 8:30:47 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hvantill@chartermi.net writes:
> I do indeed celebrate the separation of church (representing
> institutionalized religion) and state in America. My own reflection is that when church
> (institutionalized religion) and state (institutionalized civil power) become
> one, both are profoundly corrupted.
>
> Howard Van Till
>
>
>
Then how would you address the election of Hilary Clinton by a Jewish block
vote of one single community in NY? This is separation of church and state?
"Elon explained that if he were forced to say that this country is under the
Christian God, not the Jewish God, then that would be admitting that
this is their country more than it is ours."
Do you not see that the country will always reflect the will of the most
religious as in my example of an orthodox community that elects senators? You
either get into the game of life or you withdraw from it - if you withdraw you
lose by default -
Don't you think your celebration is premature? Dershowitz's two books,
Reversal of Fortune and Chutzpah are about Jews coming to power and flexing their
muscles. Dershowitz said religions were equal under the law. That means they can
compete for representation and to looking out for their specific interests.
That is what Dershowitz espouses. He doesn't make a hypothetical remark about
the evil of church state and that never the twain shall meet and that Jews
shouls shirk from granting power to a religion. He says, we as Jews will work to
prevent any religion from controlling the state. Fine, but if they succeed in
doing so, it is because they have acquired the power to do so as Dershowitz's
both books suggest and that makes their religion the de facto state religion
with all the perks of power that go with it. And that is precisely the case in
Israel! How can you not consider that?
rich faussette
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