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From: Debbie Mann (deborahjmann@insightbb.com)
Date: Fri Jul 18 2003 - 11:00:18 EDT

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    There is the saying:

    There are three types of lies: Big lies, white lies and statistics.

    I have quoted my husband before as saying that it takes an awful lot of
    faith to totally believe there is no God.

    I find it extremely hard to believe that 93% of any group would align
    themselves with this strong position. Therefore, I wonder who claimed that
    93% are atheists. (Not agnostice, not 'not aligned with any formal religion'
    not 'don't attend weekly services.')

    My gut tells me that someone has taken something that asked for 'religious
    affiliation' and denoted everyone that said 'none' as an atheist - or some
    such thing.

    Most of the scientific community that I have been involved in has a great
    number of people who believe very strongly in God, yet feel the religious
    community is full of beans.

    True faith needs to be a one-on-one with God. We need a religious community,
    but the exceptional people, particularly, have a hard time identifying with
    the masses. Part of this is a related point:

    To Rich - in the past many people went to church because it was the thing to
    do. They may or may not have had a personal relationship with God. People
    also dressed for dinner and did a lot of other things that were the 'thing
    to do'. People don't do that anymore - at least not nearly as much. I
    believe much of the 'falling away' that you see is people just being honest.
    There have always been people that didn't get it, and now they feel free to
    say so.

    There's bad and good to that. The bad is that they don't feel pressured to
    go where they can be taught the truth. The good is that maybe there's a
    little more honesty in the church. When I was a child I heard a lot of
    crying about hypocrisy in the church and the evils of church politics. I
    haven't heard those accusations in years.

    Debbie Mann
    Debbie Mann Consulting
    (765) 477-1776



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