RE: Probabilities and Protons

From: Glenn Morton (glennmorton@entouch.net)
Date: Sun Jul 06 2003 - 22:16:55 EDT

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    >From: Dr. Blake Nelson [mailto:bnelson301@yahoo.com]
    >Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 8:56 PM

    >--- Glenn Morton <glennmorton@entouch.net> wrote:
    >(SNIP)
    >> GRM: Wayne, as I mentioned in another post
    >> tonight, there is an
    >> experimental test which can be done. This isn't the
    >> wild-A speculation that
    >> one might at first think. This could become a real
    >> issue. We will have
    >> quantum computers in a few years and the software is
    >> there waiting to be run
    >> which will test this idea. We will KNOW in a few
    >> years. One way or another.
    >> Given the track record Christianity has had in
    >> predicting outcomes of such
    >> observational tests, I suspect the MWH may win.
    >
    >I still don't see the particular relevance to
    >Christian theology, at least not a relevance that
    >rises above existing and historical debates (and a
    >variety of positions in the Christian tradition)
    >regarding the sovereignty of God, predestination, etc.
    > Maybe, I'm just thick.

    Blake, I didn't say any of these theological issues were new. As
    Ecclesiastes says, there is nothing new under ths sun. The thing that is
    new, though will be the imprimatur of science on what ever the outcome is.

    >
    >Also, it seems to me (and someone please correct me if
    >I am wrong) that it is extravagance (or slopiness of
    >language) to say essentially that every possible thing
    >happens, when what one really means is every possible
    >quantum outcome is realized. It seems to me that most
    >of what Glenn is concerned about (from a practical
    >theological standpoint) happens not at a quantum
    >level, but at a level above the quantum level, which
    >seems to lessen whatever theoretical theological
    >impact someone might suggest MWH has.

    Why? If the manner in which God formed the universe is such that there is a
    person for each possible Glenn, doesn't that mean that somewhere in some
    unviverse, Ted Bundy is a Christian preacher? That puts a whole different
    spin on the claim of Jesus that he wants none of the little ones to perish.
    Matthew 18:14. The MWH might mean that none do, and then if it is true, what
    is the point of evangelism? Ted Bundy will be saved from some other place
    and time.

    I do have a question. Have you ever agreed with anything I have said?



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