From: richard@biblewheel.com
Date: Sat Jul 05 2003 - 23:22:37 EDT
Hi Debbie,
I really appreciate your questions, but I wonder if your approach may lead to more confusion than understanding. Its rather like mathematics. Its hard to explain calculus before algebra. The questions you ask about the meaning of numbers are very important but impossible to answer in a context where the mere fact that numbers have meaning has yet to be demonstrated or generally agreed upon, as is the case in this forum. Many people reading your questions and my efforts to answer them may well conclude from the mere fact that we are discussing this topic that the whole Bible Wheel is invalid.
This is why I have laboured long and hard to separate the Bible Wheel site into Three Threads. The Wheel per se can be perfectly understood with no reference to Numbers and Scripture.
I pointed you in the direction of the introductory articles in previous posts because those articles were designed heuristically to avoid as many of these pitfalls as possible.
It would be most helpful therefore if we could discuss one of the introductory articles I have repeatedly cited. For example, what do you think of the Canon Wheel? Do you think this could have happened by chance in the Word of God? If not, what do you think the ramifications are?
Thanks again for your interest and your questions. It is my one desire to explain this calling God has laid upon my soul.
In service of Christ the Saviour,
Richard
----- Original Message -----
From: Debbie Mann
To: Asa
Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:48 PM
Subject: RE: Predeterminism and parallel universes
Debbie Asked:
3) Why would God use pentagonal numbers? What's the significance of five
above three or seven, which are much more commonly referred to as religious
numbers? I don't know that I find the fifth day or the fifth commandment to
be more significant than the others.
Richard replied:
I don't really know why He used pentagonal numbers, but it seemed
significant that the three numbers that define the symmetric structure are
pentagonal. Of course, a lot of potential reasons found in various artilces
on the meaning of Five and the Fifth Letter in Scripture. I refer you to the
two most significant articles:
This one discusses the relation between the Letter Heh, the Number 5, and
Life:
http://www.biblewheel.com/Wheel/Spokes/Heh_Day.asp
Debbie responds:
The fact that the 'promise' of the fifth commandment is long life and that
life was created on the fifth day does add to the significance of 'five'.
On your site, you claim that inorganic growth, such as snowflakes and
crystals, are built on numbers such as six, and never five and that life
grows according to the fibonacci sequence, 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,21...., and in
particular the number five due to geometric reasons? What reasons?
The site also notes that many creatures, such as starfish, were given life
on the fifth day and that this adds to the fact that five means 'life'.
While I will grant you that the creatures that I know of that have five
equal appendages were created on the fifth day, certainly the vast majority
of creatures created on the fifth day did not have a five in their
anatomy -vertebrate fish, various anemone, squid, plant life - the vast
majority would have other than five appendages.
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(I brought this back on line - we can take it back off line if either you,
Richard, or several of the others want us to. I don't think it's fair that
one or two readers get tired of a subject and start insisting that it be
dropped even though seven or eight people are still participating.)
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