From: Sondra Brasile (sbrasile@hotmail.com)
Date: Sat May 31 2003 - 14:44:42 EDT
Iain,
And you weren't even called a dummy off-list.
Sondra
>From: "Iain Strachan" <iain.strachan.asa@ntlworld.com>
>To: "Debbie Mann" <deborahjmann@insightbb.com>
>CC: <asa@lists.calvin.edu>, "Michael Roberts"
><michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk>
>Subject: Re: The forgotten verses
>Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 19:19:49 +0100
>
>Debbie writes a lot of sense here; it is the closing out of love that
>concerns me, particularly in the bitterness and sarcasm with which Vernon's
>observations are received.
>
>I for one don't insist you have to believe all that or agree on all the
>details to be a Christian. But when Michael writes something like:
>
>
> > I get fed up with the superspirituality and offensiveness of people like
>you
> > who assume that those who dont support your silly myths of numerology
>and
> > YEC have rejected the Bible.
> >
>
>.. then I seriously wonder how in the world you can call someone
>"offensive"
>and then reply by being equally offensive yourself. Michael has frequently
>on the list stated that he does not understand the maths behind Vernon's
>theories. Therefore surely that position of ignorance does not qualify him
>to state that the "numerology" is a "silly myth", and even if he was
>qualified to suggest it was all wrong, then a reasoned argument is far more
>persuasive than using perjorative language like that.
>
>
>
>
> > I have tried to answer your questions but you simply have a closed mind
>and
> > heart
> >
>
>.. and the same is true for you, I'm afraid; I've repeatedly tried to
>reason
>with you that this is something that it's reasonable to look into; that
>it's
>part of my own personal journey etc. I have never suggested that you
>should
>go along with it or that it or anything else was necessary for your
>salvation. Not the slightest acknowledgement have I received from you on
>this, nor any convincing argument why I should not pursue this, or indeed
>seek to discuss it with a group of intelligent scientifically oriented
>fellow Christians. But everytime the subject comes up, when there are
>individuals on the group who have responded in an intelligent manner that
>aids discussion, we don't get very far before you come out with one of your
>nasty sarcastic statements, like the triangular olive leaves. I've tried
>very hard not to close out the love aspect here, but it's all I can do at
>the moment to close out the rising anger.
>
>Iain
>
>
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