Re: Is the Hubbert curve a factor in the Bush Administrations rush to

From: douglas.hayworth@perbio.com
Date: Mon Feb 24 2003 - 16:24:49 EST

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    Everyone seems to be putting in his/her two denari worth on this thread.
    In my opinion, only George's much earlier post describing the issues
    surrounding the just(ifiable) war issue have been worth the read - giving
    me something to think about. Here are a couple of other (possibly) helpful
    thoughts.

    1) Jesus' statement about rendering unto Ceasar what is Caesar's and unto
    God what is God's seems a more useful idea than WWJD in regard to going to
    war. Although we are a democracy and should vote based on our convictions,
    in daily life most of us are mere pawns; if we are drafted to support our
    country militarily, etc., we must have pretty substantial and unambiguous
    reasons not to comply. Nowhere do we see Jesus caring one iota whether a
    person he ministered to was a Jew, a regular citizen, or a Roman officer.
    He never implied that it was immoral, in principle, for a believing
    Centurian soldier to remain so even though the soldier's government
    occupied Israel and persecuted the Jews and the early church.

    2) Not that his is the final word on the matter, but C.S. Lewis wrote
    (transcribed speech, I think) about why he wasn't a pacifist. If I
    remember correctly, his reasons were somewhat like what I have put forth
    above. I think I will go home a give it a read.

    Sincerely,
    Douglas Hayworth

                                                                                                                           
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    Joel Cannon wrote:

    > Walter Hicks said:
    >
    > > I would suggest that the difference between Joel and Glenn is not a
    > > question of the Hubbert curve, but rather one of preconceived
    > > philosophies. It is just the same old liberal versus conservative
    > > outlooks (IMO) and has nothing to do with "WWJD".
    >
    > OK Walter, you are asking the question that I would like people to be
    > asking and I find it being asked distressingly little. What would
    > Jesus do? Would he be at the controls of a bomber flying over Baghdad
    > and if he was there would he drop the bombs?

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