From: Alexanian, Moorad (alexanian@uncw.edu)
Date: Sat Nov 30 2002 - 17:20:58 EST
The difficulty with the notion of ’Äúevolutionary theory’Äù is that
one really does not know how encompassing its proponents claim the
ideas to be. It may be good phenomenology to constantly add to it
hoping to eventually have a theory on the par of theories in physics.
Of course, the proponents of evolutionary theory have a right to
claim that the questions they raise are purely scientific questions.
However, the latter is not at all obvious when one deals with the
origin of life itself and more so with the fundamental question of
origins. It is clear that pure phenomenology can never be falsified
but only theories that make precise predications that can prove the
theory to disagree with future data. Moorad
-----Original Message-----
From: Walter Hicks [mailto:wallyshoes@mindspring.com]
Sent: Sat 11/30/2002 3:31 PM
To: george murphy
Cc: John Burgeson; asa@calvin.edu
Subject: Evolution & Identity of the ID designer
george murphy wrote:
> What I find objectionable is that, when the issue is whether or not
> ID should be included in science curricula in public
schools & in some other
> venues, they try to play the "nobody here but us
scientists and philosophers"
> game.
> I think this latest attempt to present some version of
> theistic creation
> as a scientific alternative to evolution is dangerous both for
> science education
> and for the mission of the Christian church (for somewhat
different reasons).
> It need to be confronted by scientifically knowledgeable Christians
>for what it
> actually is, a religiously based cultural and political
movement which makes
> scientfic claims.
I have raised this issue before and nobody seems to be willing to
back up the claim
that evolution is a real scientific theory. If is is, then it can be
simply stated
and then have a definite set of conditions under which it can be
falsified. If it
is not a falsifiable theory which can be invalidated somehow, then it
is no more a
scientific theory than ID is!
In my opinion, the evolutionary THEORY, not the "FACT", (excuse the
capitals) is
just a set of shifting sand that is adamantly supported by scientists
who refuse to
yield any ground at all in their quest for absolute
scientific naturalism ---
proven or not. Slapping Band-Aids year after year on Darwin's first
notions hardly
makes for an acceptable theory by most scientific standards
in other fields.
IMO
Walt
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Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com>
In any consistent theory, there must
exist true but not provable statements.
(Godel's Theorem)
You can only find the truth with logic
If you have already found the truth
without it. (G.K. Chesterton)
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