From: Michael Roberts (michael.andrea.r@ukonline.co.uk)
Date: Sat Nov 02 2002 - 15:08:51 EST
Does anyone have anything to say about these quotations? I recently used =
them as a starter on the challenge of science to Christianity as part =
of an M.A. course. Friends of the Earl of Cork's son are requested not =
to reply!
Michael
THE FLAT EARTH, 1491
Columbus; The earth is not flat, Father. It's round!
The Prior; Don't say that!
Columbus; It's the truth; it's not a mill pond strewn with islands. It's =
a sphere.
The Prior; Don't say that; it's blasphemy. (i.e. Columbus would have =
sailed off the edge.)
Joseph Chiari; Christopher Columbus, 1979. (a play)
CALVIN ON COPERNICUS
"Who will dare to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the =
Holy Spirit?" (referring to Psalm 93 v1)
GEOLOGY AND GENESIS AT WAR, 1800-1840
'The hunch that God might not have done precisely as Bishop Ussher had =
suggested [creation in 4004BC],., was beginning to be tested by real =
thinkers, by rationalists, by radically inclined scientists who were =
bold enough to challenge both the dogma and the law, the clerics and the =
courts.''
p29 Simon Winchester, The Map that changed the World
'The first rumblings of trouble ahead, for all who were fixed in these =
beliefs, came from the science of geology. In the 1830s books by Sir =
Charles Lyell and Dean Buckland established the geological succession of =
rocks and fossils, and showed that the world to be much older than the =
accepted date for the Garden of Eden.'
Alec Vidler , The Church in an Age of Revolution p114(Standard work on =
Church History)
DARWIN DESTROYS THE LITERAL VIEW OF GENESIS
'The conclusion that the higher animals and man had evolved . was =
obviously fatal to the literal accuracy of the Book of Genesis, and what =
is more, it seemed that the traditional Christian doctrines about the =
creation and the fall would have to go by the board.'
Vidler p116
In 1860 the Bishop of Worcester's wife said, "Oh, my dear, let's hope =
that what Mr Darwin says is not true. But if it istrue, let us hope that =
it will not become generally known."
Many sources, also Sunday Times 17 Feb 2002
'. those religious believers who rejected Darwin's theory because they =
thought it conflicted with the account of Genesis have been pretty much =
discredited.'
p62 Keith Ward , God, Chance and Necessity
'. in 1862 the eminent physicist Lord Kelvin greatly worried Darwin by =
'proving' that the .earth could not possibly be more than 24 million =
years. Although this estimate was considerably better than the 4004BC =
date then favoured by churchmen.
p155 R Dawkins in The Oxford Companion to Animal Behaviour
'Darwin made it possible to be an intellectually fulfilled atheist'
p6 The Blind Watchmaker
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