From: Walter Hicks (wallyshoes@mindspring.com)
Date: Wed Sep 25 2002 - 16:36:54 EDT
george murphy wrote:
> "Terry M. Gray" wrote:
>
> > George and the others who've commented on this thread,
> >
> > While we all admit that there's a certain amount of theologizing
> > going on in the gospels, i.e. each writer (under the inspiration of
> > the Holy Spirit) has a theological purpose that goes beyond the mere
> > reporting of some space-time event, is there any reason from the text
> > to think that the events reported didn't happen? I don't quite
> > understand the reservation in acknowledging that Peter (and Jesus)
> > "actually, physically, historically" walked on the water.
> >
> > Why are folks who want to affirm the actual, physical, historical
> > event labeled "naifs"?
>
> My statement was made when this topic was proposed just
>after a rather
> unsatisfactory go-around on Jonah, in which the possibility that that
> book might not
> be an account of actual events was brushed off with pseudo-arguments
> like those I
> note below. I intended to characterize as naive those who
> continually rely on such
> arguments in order to hold onto a belief that essentially everything
> in scripture is
> accurate historical narrative.
The trouble is that, when a person is offering counter arguments, you
get in huff
and dismiss them as stubborn "naÔfs" or worse. I would suggest that
you unjustly
character assassinate others who do not agree with you without
reflecting upon any
viewpoint other than your own. I get information from your posts but
it looks like
you get none from anyone who does not agree with you. That is usually called
closemindedness.
As I said to you before, I generally do not necessarily hold that any
given OT book
is valid history but I want to hear the arguments for and against. If
you expect me
(or some others) to just roll over and play dead at one of your
pronouncements --
well it is not going to happen. If providing some proof to support
your viewpoints
and then listening to counter arguments is all that distasteful to
you, then you
are right in not responding.
Walt
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Walt Hicks <wallyshoes@mindspring.com>
In any consistent theory, there must
exist true but not provable statements.
(Godel's Theorem)
You can only find the truth with logic
If you have already found the truth
without it. (G.K. Chesterton)
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