Jim, Mike:
Can anyone who wishes to continue, please carry on about the
historicity of Genesis, scholasticism, biblical estimates of the
number of years between Adam and Jesus, and other such discussions on
off-line? I suspect there is a large majority of silent listeners that
agree given, for example, Allan Harvey's comments on his departure
after many years on the list. Others may also feel along with me that
what was a significant forum for the exchange of ideas has been
highjacked by what seem to us to be meaningless discussions. I am
close to following Allan after something like 8 years on the list.
Jan's statement that Mike's reading of the bible is strange speaks for
many of us (he has said the same in so many words for your reading,
Jim). No doubt our readings of the bible seem equally strange to you
two. The fact is that we live in two (or more) different intellectual
universes and have much different outlooks on science, scripture, etc.
that makes the prospect of useful dialogue so unlikely that we do not
wish to attempt it, and we wince when someone else does. One only
needs to look at you all's responses to Jan, someone who has a
significant theological background, and whose input has been respected
over the years to confirm this.
Several months ago, Jim, you mentioned formation of your own chat
room (listserv?). That might be a better forum for you all. You could
invite anyone else that is interested to go with you.
Jan, George, David, and others: Would you please resist the temptation
to respond to these sorts of discussions. Your words will not be
heard. It only fans the flames of fruitless discussions when you do.
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> Jan writes
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> >In my Bible it simply stated that the Israelites were 430 years in Egypt.
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> Yes, Jan, that is exactly what it states. The Bible makes a "big fuss"
> about the arrival of Israel and his sons in Egypt. I am in full
> agreement with you here.
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> >but I must say, that your reading of the Bible is strange.
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> This needed to be said.
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> Mike is largely correct with his Bible chronology.
> He writes, among other things
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> >You better red Gal. 3:17 again.
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> Mike, you need to do a much better job of taking context into
> consideration. 3 out of 3 (haven't checked my fourth yet) Bible
> commentaries have backed the 430 years being time in Egypt.
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> A recent post mentioned how silly Bible inerrancy can be if we
> are just going to butcher interpretation.
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> Stick with Bible chronology disproving YEC. Leave the "numbers
> games" to the lottery people. While I'm writing, Bible chronology
> also disproves any creation theories placing Adam before 5,000-4,000 BC.
>
> How about using your considerable skills and intellect to push
> non-Biblical interpretations off the cliff (or into outer space) where
> they belong?
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> Jim
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