Re: Coal

From: Bill Payne (bpayne15@juno.com)
Date: Thu Jun 06 2002 - 00:16:56 EDT

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    Hi Glenn,

    Our schedules left us with some loose ends on this topic, if you care to
    continue for a bit longer.

    On Sun, 26 May 2002 08:50:25 -0700 "Glenn Morton"
    <glenn.morton@btinternet.com> writes:

    > As to the above, statement, All I see is that you actually made my
    > case for me about the Okefenokee being capable of replicating the
    features
    > you describe. I fail to see how you miss it.

    Coming from one who rails at YECs for ignoring empirical data, that is an
    incredible statement. It seems to me that you have refused to engage the
    data. Again, I may be wrong in my assessment of the meaning of this
    data, but to date no one has been able to explain where I am wrong.

    Glenn, please compare the drawing of a paleoswamp at
    http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/topogeo/pub/lop.pdf with the photos of the
    chunk of coal you posted at
    http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/CoalClose-up4.jpg
    http://www.glenn.morton.btinternet.co.uk/CoalClose-up1.jpg This chuck of
    coal shows horizontal (planar) structure, which in outcrop may extend for
    feet, yards, and even miles. Forget, for the time being, the lack of
    vertical trunks and roots in my photos; just concentrate on the planar
    structure in the coal and explain how you can get a plane from the very
    irregular topography found in a paleoswamp such as the one referenced
    above.

    Compression by 3 to 10 times to get coal from peat WILL NOT flatten out
    the irregularities in the bottom profile of a swamp. How do you explain
    the flat structure in coal such as the chunk in the photos?

    Incidentally, we have a summer intern who graduated from Furman in
    geology, and is working on an engineering degree from Colorado School of
    Mines. He saw the rocks in my office and asked about them. I showed him
    the same samples for which you have photos, and explained in about ten
    minutes some of the discrepansies I see, and he was saying, "Yeah, I see
    what you are talking about." So I'm not the only one to see these
    things, and how they contradict the swamp model.

    Bill

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