RE: Atlantic Unbound Interview on cloning

From: Shuan Rose (shuanr@boo.net)
Date: Tue Jun 04 2002 - 12:21:08 EDT

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    I I would go on to ask the questions, When do the rights attach? Is it the
    moment the "sperm hits the egg?" Or is it at some point thereafter? And what
    rights? Is the embryo afforded the full panoply of rights that we give a
    newborn infant? Or is there a sliding scale? What if anything does science
    say about when an embryo becomes " human?" The Bible seems to talk about "
    quickening". Is that a valid point for us to say, "OK, this embryo is now
    human?"

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    What you quoted seems to provide a better summary than most of the
    pros and cons, in that it actually mentions the cons, but some of the
    pro argument has problems. The basic issue is whether the cloned
    embryo has any particular rights to protection at that stage. Merely
    talking about the potential medical benefits of the work on clones
    would apply equally to Nazi experiments on naturally occuring clones
    (i.e., twins) well after birth. Many experiments on adult humans
    would bring about great increases in our medical knowledge, and could
    save more lives than are taken by the experiments. However, killing
    adults for medical information is generally regarded as wrong,
    especially if the adult in question is the judge of what is right.

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    >.....
    >But many also argue that an important distinction needs to be
    >recognized between "reproductive cloning," in which the goal is the
    >creation of a full-fledged human being, and "therapeutic cloning,"
    >in which the goal is the creation of a several-day-old embryo from
    >which undifferentiated stem cells can be harvested and potentially
    >used to cure a variety of devastating diseases. Those who believe
    >that human life begins with the very existence of an embryo cannot
    >countenance a procedure that involves an embryo's creation and
    >destruction, even at a very early stage. But those who believe that
    >human life does not begin at least until an embryo's cells have
    >begun to differentiate themselves into distinctly human tissues feel
    >that prohibiting such research-which could save the lives of many
    >people with cancer, diabetes, heart disease, Alzheimer's,
    >Parkinson's, and other illnesses-would in itself be reprehensible
    >and disrespectful of human life.<



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