RE: Herodotus' Mice and the need for historical verification

From: Dr. Blake Nelson (bnelson301@yahoo.com)
Date: Wed Jun 05 2002 - 00:20:19 EDT

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    Two brief points to avoid belaboring this any further.

    Re: the Truth that Christ revealed being contra-the
    world's "truth" -- we can cite lots of scriptures that
    say that this is the case, by being conformed to
    Christ we reject what the world tells us to hold
    important and how to behave.

    You engage in the fallacy of saying isn't contra the
    natural contra Ockham's razor... there are two
    fallacies here. First Ockham's razor, the answer is
    no. Being contra to perceived reality has nothing to
    do with Ockham's razor. Second, I should have been
    more precise in saying that Christ shows a way that
    seems contra to the world. However, if you look
    deeper into reality, there are hints that Christ's is
    the deeper truth. There has been lots written about
    this, but I won't belabor the point. Simply, Christ's
    way appears contrary to common sense, until you enter
    on the path of that way, in which you see the world in
    an entirely different light. You have missed this
    point before. William James makes this point well
    (albeit generally) in the Will to Believe.

    The other major point that needs to be addressed is
    that you miss my point about the transforming power of
    Christianity and adopt an unwarrantedly negative and
    insulting view towards Islam generally by succumbing
    to the ecological fallacy. I am not defending Islam
    as Truth, far from it, but to ascribe to Islam broadly
    the actions of certain overzealous sects, is like
    ascribing all Christians the mindset of YECers (taken
    in the pejorative sense of that reference).

    My point about the transforming power is how the
    tradition transforms the individual to the good. In
    Christianity, I think there is very good evidence for
    the power of the Holy Spirit in people's lives.
    Ultimately, it is the other centered love expressed by
    Christians that is a mark of their Lord, Jesus and His
    Truth. This is clearly what I meant. If Islam does
    transform people to be suicide bombers (which I would
    dispute as you have so facilely put it), it just goes
    to prove my point that the Truth of Christianity is
    evidenced in the fruit of those dedicated to taking up
    their crosses and following their Lord. This other
    centered love and love of the enemy would be sharply
    contrasted against the pastiche of Islamic
    fundamentalism that you present of someone willing to
    die, as long as they kill infidels in the process.

    I am sure you can objectively see the difference
    between the outworking of the two different systems,
    as you characterize Islam and as I have characterized
    Christianity.

    So, with those needed clarifications, I will, to
    borrow a page from your book, let you have the last
    word, since I think we have sufficiently beaten this
    long-deceased horse.

    Peace,

    Blake

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