Fw: Re: Natural theology?

From: John W Burgeson (burgytwo@juno.com)
Date: Tue May 29 2001 - 10:57:47 EDT

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    Earlier trhis month, George posted:

    > " Independent natural theology (i.e., that which is developed without
    reference to revelation) is 1) biblically marginal, and 2)
    dangerous....."

    and I replied:

    > That seems pretty obvious. Do you understand Whitehead/Griffin to have
    done this? From my studying of them so far I think Whitehead may be so
    accused, but not Griffin. But I may be wrong.

    George answered:

    "I don't know that it's obvious, since developments and uses of such
    natural theologies have been a thriving industry, especially since the
    17th century. But Whitehead doesn't make this error - his mistake, I
    think, is farther down the line. Toward the end of _Process and Reality_
    he says:

            "The history of theistic philosophy exhibits various stages of
    combination of these three diverse ways of entertaining the
    problem. There is, however, in the Galilean origin of
    Christianity yet another suggestion which does not fit
    very well with any of the three main strands of thought.
    It does not emphasize the ruling Caesar, or the ruthless
    moralist, or the unmoved mover. It dwells upon the tender
    elements in the world, which slowly and in quietness operate
    by love; and it finds purpose in the present immediacy of a
    kingdom not of this world. Love neither rules nor is it
    unmoved; also it is a little oblivious as to morals. It
    does not look to the future; for it finds its own reward in
    the immediate present."

    And a little later he refers to God as "the great
    companion - the fellow sufferer who understands."

            The influence of the story of Jesus, and of a type of theology of
    the
    cross, on the development of Whitehead's picture of God is, I think,
    fairly
    clear from this. So he isn't pursuing a natural theology entirely
    independent
    of revelation. & I think to some extent that's true of many process
    theologians.

            Where the problem comes, however, is in then seeing this picture
    of
    God as a general truth, of which Jesus is one example - a very important
    example perhaps but not a unique and indispensable revelation of God."

    George -- I could not find that Whitehead quote. Could you give me a
    citation? I understand your comments here, and tentatively, at least,
    must agree with them.

    George continued: "Eberhard Juengel states the basic problem of natural
    theology - which I think is typified by Whitehead - as follows:

             "What natural theology represents perversely as truth is the
    claim of the most highly specific event of the Word of God to general
    validity. And the perversion of this truth consists in the reversal of
    the claim to general validity of this highly specific event to assertion
    of a generality to which then the unique event is subsumed as a special
    case of a comprehensive relation." (If this sounds clumsy it's because
    it's my translation & I haven't tried to make it elegant English.)

    I.e., theological statements ultimately have to be referred back to
    Christ crucified, not to some general truth about the suffering of God.

    It took me a little while to unpack Juengel's statement, but when I did
    it makes good sense.

    Thanks much, George.

    Burgy



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