Re: GOD IN THE BOX (what is a Factor Analytic proof of God?)

From: George Hammond (ghammond@mediaone.net)
Date: Fri May 25 2001 - 04:47:55 EDT

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    Adam Marczyk wrote:

    > > Anyway, to answer your question, the FIRST THING the scientific result
    > > says is that the "physical being" that has been discovered, is in
    > > fact the one and the same "being" that is described in the Bible.
    >
    > I think you lost me. How did you determine this? As far as I can follow what
    > you're saying, the curvature of psychometric space is a function of the
    > secular trend increase in brain size. How did you get from there to God? And
    > wouldn't this mean that God didn't exist until humans existed? If so, he can
    > hardly be the Creator of the world described in the Bible or the texts of
    > most other major world religions.

    [Hammond]
    Ouch... cripes you are smart... smarter than me probably.
    OK, one thing at a time. Your statement:

            "As far as I can follow what you're
            saying, the curvature of psychometric
            space is a function of the secular
            trend increase in brain size."

    This statement is absolutely correct, and just about
    summarizes the entire theory. Thanks, I was beginning
    to think I was the only one left in the world who
    could still think logically.
      Then you say:

            "How did you get from there to God?
             And wouldn't this mean that God didn't
             exist until humans existed?

    OK, take the second question first. The answer is YES,
    and NO, that "God didn't exist until Humans existed". Let
    me explain that, because that explanation shows why both
    Creationism, AND Evolution are both scientifically correct.
      According to the theory, which shows that "reality" is
    a function of brain growth (i.e. with more growth the
    person gets closer to absolute reality), we immediately
    conclude that the brain itself therefore "creates reality".
    Therefore, "reality" as we know it, did not and could not,
    exist before the advent of the human brain, some, say,
    60,000 years ago (Homo s. sapiens). This then, is the
    so called "Biblical" age of the World, or Universe. This
    is the (Biblical) Date of Creation.
      On the other hand, "reality" contains past, present and
    future. The past and the present, and even our expectation
    or concept of the future, were "created" (came into existence)
    60,000 years ago when we were "created". In other words,
    a 15-billion year history was "created" 60,000 years ago
    when Man was Created. This is easily proved by the fact
    that this 15-billion year history would cease to exist if
    all men died tomorrow. If all men died tomorrow, by definition,
    the Universe as we know it, would cease to exist, since the
    "universe as we know it" is only defined by the human brain.
    So, we are talking about two different realities. "Absolute
    reality" only exists as long as Man is alive to maintain it.
    "Relative reality" is the body of "Laws of Physics" which
    hold true according to Mans perception. The Laws of Physics
    cannot "define reality", they can only discover the Laws relating
    one human sensation to another. For instance, Physics cannot
    define Mass, Length and Time. It can only discover the Laws
    relating Mass, Length and Time. Mass, length and time are
    only "defined" by holding up a brass cylinder, Platinum
    rod and Cesium clock and asking for a majority vote on
    whether everybody "thinks" that these are specimens of what
    everybody is calling "Mass, length and time".
      OK, so within the laws of relative reality, Evolution is
    absolutely scientifically true, and Life began 3-billion
    years ago. On the other hand, scientifically, the entire
    Universe was literally "Created" by God, 60,000 (or even
    6,000) years ago. CREATIONISM AND EVOLUTION ARE BOTH
    ABSOLUTELY SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT.
      Problem is, at the present time science does not know
    this, and falsely claims that only Evolution is a "scientific"
    fact, and that "Creationism/Bible" is NOT a scientific
    fact. SCIENCE IS WRONG.
      My discovery of a scientific proof of God proves that
    the Bible is scientifically correct, and in fact, is not
    at odds with Evolution.

      OK, now getting back to your first question:

            "How did you get from there to God?"

    meaning, how do I show that:
      
            the curvature of psychometric
            space as a function of the secular
            trend increase in brain size = GOD

    OK, here's where you have to put on your scientific hat.
    Basically the answer is; "it's obvious"... of course it's
    only obvious to a professional.
      The identification is made in the standard, by the
    book scientific methodology that is used to make all
    scientific identifications.
      For instance, P.A.M. Dirac is famous (Nobel Prize) for
    discovering a Quantum Mechanics equation (Dirac Equation)
    which predicted that there existed negative energy
    particles. No one could believe this. Then, about 7 years
    later, Anderson discovered the Positron. It had the same
    mass as an Electron but a positive charge. People began
    to suspect that this was Dirac's "negative energy" particle.
    It was just an Electron with an opposite charge.
      Now, there is no way you can "absolutely prove" this. All
    you can do is examine all the evidence, and submit it to
    massive scientific scrutiny and opinion, and, sure enough,
    it wasn't long before all concurred that it sure enough
    was Dirac's negative energy particle.
      Same is true for the scientific proof of God. You see,
    THERE IS NO existing scientific definition of God. All we
    know about "God" is a 4,000 year old religious tradition
    which is apparently subscribed to more or less by about
    5 billion people. And the description of this God is kind of
    sketchy, however, quite extensive, in the 1,024 pages of the
    Bible. So, all science can do is be on the lookout for
    any newly discovered scientific phenomena which might turn out
    to be an actual detection of such a thing.
      Or consider Atlantis. There is a 2500 year old rumor about
    a lost continent sunk in the Atlantic. Now suppose some submarine
    expedition discovered a vast ancient city on the sea floor in
    the middle of the Atlantic, including 5 story buildings, paved
    roads and tens of thousands of dwellings, stretching for
    hundreds of miles, and in the middle of town a stone Stella
    saying "Remember us we who are about to die, our country is
    sinking into the Sea, most have left, we are all lost forever".
    Now, I suppose you can argue that you couldn't "prove" that
    it was Atlantis.... but I don't think very many reasonable people
    would seriously doubt it.
      OK, that's what's happened, Hammond discovered that Psychometry
    suddenly has found a surprising solution to the Structural
    Model question, and in the process has stumbled on something
    that looks like it might be a scientific detection of this
    mysterious entity know as "God" for 4,000 years.
      At that point, it becomes a routine by the book problem
    to decide if it is. Basically you have to meet all of the
    following criteria for a "scientific proof":

     

    5. If such a physical phenomena were discovered which
        seemed to explain "God", the truth of the discovery
        could only be judged on the basis of it meeting the
        following commonly known scientific criteria:
            
          A. COMPREHENSIVENESS.. it would have to explain
              every last detail of what has been observed
              historically about "God", including:

                1. Polytheism vs. Monotheism
                2. The Crucifixion
                3. Miracles and revelation
                4. Heaven
                5. Eternal Life
                6. All the "signs and wonders"
                    of every known religion
                7. The Creation
                8. Kingdom Come
                9. Prayer
               10. And everything else ever written
                    about "God"
            
          B. MEASURABLE... besides being comprehensive
              the phenomena must produce a physically
              measurable result, an actual physical measurement
              of "God".

          C. EXPERIMENTALLY CONFIRMED.. the physical
              result must be confirmed overwhelmingly by
              experimental data which is replicable, stable
              and independently confirmed, preferably over many
              years and by many people.

          D. AXIOMATIC THEORETICAL EXPLANATION..
              besides the experimental result, the result must
              have a theoretical explanation derived directly
              from the axiomatic laws of physics. The most
              convincing theory would obviously be one in which
              "God" turned out to be explained by THE most
              fundamental axiomatic law of physics.
      
    (cited from:
    http://people.ne.mediaone.net/ghammond/Theoryexpo.html

    OK, to make a long story short, my theory and the evidence
    that it produces, meets every one of the above scientific
    criteria hands down and with flying colors. No problem.
      Therefore, the identification of the discovered scientific
    phenomena with "God" is overwhelming and proven beyond
    any possible doubt. As firmly as Dirac's Positron in fact.

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