Re: The Bible anticipates scientific discoveries - again!

From: Terry M. Gray (grayt@lamar.colostate.edu)
Date: Fri May 04 2001 - 15:36:01 EDT

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    I was just explainng to a friend that Adam and Eve wouldn't be able to
    breathe without the 2nd Law since diffusion is required and diffusion is
    based on entropy. He casually quipped back--well maybe they breathed
    differently than we do today.

    Sigh....

    TG

    >Jack quoted (from a person who ought to know better):
    >
    >> " (snip) (1) The book of Romans tells readers that the entire creation
    >> is subject to the law of decay. Again, a scientist would see this
    >> statement as an obvious reference to the second law of thermodynamics.
    >> ...."
    >
    >George Andrews' zwei Pfennigs:
    >
    >> I think it important -- if not critical! -- to understand that the
    >> second law drives systems to higher degrees of complexity locally. This
    >> is the driving mechanism for evolution in all of its manifestations;
    >> e.g. stellar formation, pulsed lasers, etc. To equate the 2'nd law with
    >> decay alone, is therefore missleading.
    >
    >And utterly ridiculous!
    >
    >Another Pfennig: To all who would consider the Second Law of Thermodynamics
    >to be a "law of decay" that follows from human sin, consider a world in
    >which the Second Law were suspended.
    >
    >For instance, suppose that you and your beloved were, in a moment of
    >affectionate communion, holding hands in this world without thermodynamic
    >decay. Given this opportunity for heat to flow from one body to another, and
    >given that heat could now spontaneously flow from a cooler body to a warmer
    >body, it is entirely possible for your dearly beloved to freeze to death as
    >you yourself are cooked to death.
    >
    >If that's a perfect world, I don't want to go there. Long live the infamous
    >"law of decay."
    >
    >Howard Van Till

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