Gosse

From: Bill Payne (bpayne15@juno.com)
Date: Thu Jan 18 2001 - 09:45:46 EST

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    Here are some notes on Gosse which Burgy posted here in 1997. Enjoy.

    Bill

    To: asa@calvin.edu
    Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:11:11 -0700
    Subject: Gosse
    Message-ID: <19971028.091538.3302.2.johnburgeson@juno.com>

    A correspondent commented (comments uploaded here with his permission)

    The appearance of age argument is indeed irrefutable, just like the
    schoolboy's argument that the Universe is a figment of his
    imagination. The problem with the appearance of age argument is that
    in arguing that the Earth appears to be 4.6 billion years old, but is
    really only 10,000 years old, one could just as easily argue that it
    is only 100 years old, and that God created the entire Earth in 1896,
    compete with the appearance of prior history, including the Bible and
    Darwin's "Origin of Species"!

    For those like me who do not have access to such primary sources
    :-), Gould has an interesting chapter titled "Adam's Navel"
    re Gosse' Omphalos theory in "The Flamingo's Smile" (pp99-113). Some
    key points:

    * Gosse was no armchair theologian, but an eminent naturalist:

    "Philip Henry Gosse (1810-1888) was the David Attenborough of his day,
    Britain's finest popular narrator of nature's fascination. He wrote a
    dozen books on plants and animals, lectured widely to popular
    audiences, and published several technical papers on marine
    invertebrates. He was also, in an age given to strong religious
    feeling as a mode for expressing human passions denied vent elsewhere,
    an extreme and committed fundamentalist of the Plymouth Brethren
    sect." (Gould S.J., "The Flamingo's Smile", Penguin: London, 1985,
    p100).

    * He saw creation as God's interruption in the cycle of nature:

    "Gosse began his argument with a central, but dubious, premise: All
    natural processes, he declared, move endlessly round in a circle: egg
    to chicken to egg, oak to acorn to oak. This, then, is the order of
    all organic nature. When once we are in any portion of the course, we
    find ourselves running in a circular groove, as endless as the course
    of a blind horse in a mill...This is not the law of some particular
    species, but of all: it pervades all classes of animals, all classes
    of plants, from the queenly palm down to the protococcus, from the
    monad up to man: the life of every organic being is whirling in a
    ceaseless circle, to which one knows not how to assign any
    commencement...The cow is as inevitable a sequence of the embryo
    as the embryo is of the cow. When God creates, and Gosse entertained
    not the slightest doubt that all species arose by divine fiat with no
    subsequent evolution, he must break (or "erupt," as Gosse wrote)
    somewhere into this ideal circle. Creation can be nothing else than a
    series of irruptions into circles...." (Gould, p102)

    * Such an interruption into the circle necessitates an apparent
    (but not real) history:

    "Wherever God enters the circle (or "places his wafer of creation," as
    Gosse stated in metaphor), his initial product must bear traces of
    previous stages in the circle, even if these stages had no existence
    in real time. If God chooses to create humans as adults, their hair
    and nails (not to mention their navels) testify to previous growth
    that never occurred. Even if he decides to create us as a simple
    fertilized ovum, this initial form implies a phantom mother's womb and
    two nonexistent parents to pass along the fruit of inheritance...we
    cannot avoid the conclusion that each organism was from the first
    marked with the records of a previous being. But since creation and
    previous history are inconsistent with each other; as the very idea of
    the creation of an organism excludes the idea of pre-existence of that
    organism, or of any part of it; it follows, that such records are
    false, so far as they testify to time." (Gould, pp102-103)

    * Gosse invented special terminology to describe this apparent time:
     
    "Gosse then invented a terminology to contrast the two parts of a
    circle before and after an act of creation. He labeled as
    "prochronic," or occurring outside of time, those appearances of
    preexistence actually fashioned by God at the moment of creation but
    seeming to mark earlier stages in the circle of life. Subsequent
    events occurring after creation, and unfolding in conventional time,
    he called "diachronic." Adam's navel was prochronic, the 930 years of
    his earthly life diachronic. Gosse devoted more than 300 pages, some
    90 percent of his text, to a simple list of examples for the following
    small part of his complete argument-if species arise by sudden
    creation at any point in their life cycle, their initial form must
    present illusory (prochronic) appearances of preexistence." (Gould,
    p103)

    * Gosse regarded the pre-creation prochronic fossils as just as "real"
    and worthy of study, as the post-creation diachronic ones:

    "Gosse could accept strata and fossils as illusory and still advocate
    their study because he did not regard the prochronic part of a cycle
    as any less "true" or informative than its conventional diachronic
    segment. God decreed two kinds of existence-one constructed all at
    once with the appearance of elapsed time, the other progressing
    sequentially. Both dovetail harmoniously to form uninterrupted
    circles that, in their order and majesty, give us insight into God's
    thoughts and plans....As thoughts in God's mind, solidified in stone
    by creation ab nihilo, strata and fossils are just as true as if they
    recorded the products of conventional time. A geologist should study
    them with as much care and zeal, for we learn God's ways from both his
    prochronic and his diachronic objects." (Gould, p108)

    * Gosse hoped that his Omphalos theory would reconcile YEC with
    geology (its subtitle was "An Attempt to Untie the Geological Knot":

    "...Gosse offered Omphalos to practicing scientists as a helpful
    resolution of potential religious conflicts, not a challenge to their
    procedures or the relevance of their information....Yet readers
    greeted Omphalos with disbelief, ridicule, or worse, stunned
    silence...atheists and Christians alike looked at it and laughed, and
    threw it away." (Gould, pp109-110)

    * Such appearance of age arguments imply deception on God's part:

    "Although Gosse reconciled himself to a God who would create such a
    minutely detailed, illusory past, this notion was anathema to most of
    his countrymen. The British are a practical, empirical people...they
    tend to respect the facts of nature at face value...Prochronism was
    simply too much to swallow. The Reverend Charles Kingsley, an
    intellectual leader of unquestionable devotion to both God and
    science, spoke for a consensus in stating that he could not "give up
    the painful and slow conclusion of five and twenty years' study of
    geology, and believe that God has written on the rocks one enormous
    and superfluous lie." And so it has gone for the argument of Omphalos
    ever since. Gosse did not invent it, and a few creationists ever
    since have revived it from time to time. But it has never been
    welcome or popular because it violates our intuitive notion of divine
    benevolence as free of devious behavior- for while Gosse saw divine
    brilliance in the idea of prochronism, most people cannot shuck their
    seat-of-the-pants feeling that it smacks of plain old unfairness. Our
    modern American creationists reject it vehemently as imputing a
    dubious moral character to God..." (Gould, pp109-110)

    * Finally, Gosse's theory is, in principle, untestable:

    "But what is so desperately wrong with Omphalos? Only this really
    (and perhaps paradoxically): that we can devise no way to find out
    whether it is wrong-or, for that matter, right. Omphalos is the
    classical example of an utterly untestable notion, for the world will
    look exactly the same in all its intricate detail whether fossils and
    strata are prochronic or products of an extended history. When we
    realize that Omphalos must be rejected for this methodological
    absurdity, not for any demonstrated factual inaccuracy, then we will
    understand science as a way of knowing, and Omphalos will serve its
    purpose as an intellectual foil or prod. Science is a procedure for
    testing and rejecting hypotheses, not a compendium of certain
    knowledge. Claims that can be proved incorrect lie within its domain
    (as false statements to be sure, but as proposals that meet the
    primary methodological criterion of testability). But theories that
    cannot be tested in principle are not part of science. Science is
    doing, not clever cogitation; we reject Omphalos as useless, not
    wrong." (Gould, pp110-111).

    But before we laugh off Gosse' Omphalos appearance of age
    theory, he made one important point. Apart from the original
    creation of the universe from out of nothing, *any* theory of
    instantaneous creation implies some degree of appearance of age.
    Remember what Gould said:

    "Even if he decides to create us as a simple fertilized ovum, this
    initial form implies a phantom mother's womb and two nonexistent
    parents to pass along the fruit of inheritance" (Gould, p102)

    Ramm says:

    'There is one commendable feature to Gosse...namely, that God at
    creation would have to make certain things appear older than they
    were. Certainly in the nature miracles and healing miracles of Christ
    there would be a real time and an ideal time. To obtain a calm lake
    one would have to go back several hours in the course of the weather
    and follow through the necessary changes from a storm to a calm. Yet
    when our Lord spoke, those intervening changes were omitted. So God
    in creation started Nature in a given point of a cycle." (Ramm B.
    "The Christian View of Science and Scripture", Paternoster: London,
    1955, p133-134).

    Certainly when Jesus made extra loaves and fish and changed water into
    wine, the results would have an apparent history. But the difference
    here is that there was no hint of deception. Those who witnessed it
    believed it to be a miracle, not a natural occurrence.

    Here is more fully what Ramm said:

    "Pro-Chronic, or ideal time view. In 1857 Philip Henry Gosse
    published Omphalos: An attempt to Untie the Geological Knot.
    Gosse was a man learned in natural history and not a simpleton nor
    an arm-chair speculator. He argued that Nature is a circular process
    and therefore that creation must commence somewhere in the cycle.
    A building may be commenced from scratch at the foundation but
    buildings do not have a cyclical existence. You cannot create an
    organism from scratch. Because all organic life exists as a cycle,
    creation must start somewhere in the cycle, and hence the created life
    would appear as if it had already gone through the cycle up to the
    point where it was created. Gosse lists as his two fundamental theses
    that (i) all organic life moves in a cycle, and (ii) creation is a
    violent irruption into the cycle of Nature. He asks what creation is and
    answers his own question:

    '[Creation] is the sudden bursting into a circle. Since there is no
    one state in the course of existence, which more than any other affords
    natural commencing point, whatever stage selected by the arbitrary
    will of God, must be an unnatural, or rather a preter-natural,
    commencing point.'

    Omphalos is the Greek word for navel. Did Adam have a navel? Of
    course he did, argues Gosse. He was created at a given point of the
    circle of life and therefore was created as if he had gone through the
    entire cycle. If God created a tree, it would have rings in it. God
    could create a tree only at a point in its natural cycle. Every
    object of creation has two times. That which is before time or
    instantaneous in coming into existence is pro-chronic. That which
    consumes time is dia-chronic. All processes during the course of the
    world since its creation are dia-chronic. All things at the moment of
    creation were pro-chronic. Gosse also uses the terms real time and
    ideal time. At the moment of creation Adam's real time was zero-
    actually he did not exist till the moment of creation. His ideal time
    was, say for purposes of illustration, thirty years old. A tree in
    the garden of Eden would appear fifty years old (its ideal age)
    whereas it had just been created (its real time).

    How does this apply to geology? It means that the real time of
    he universe might be 6,000 B.C. or 10,000 B.C., whereas its ideal
    time might be in millions of years. Fossils and geological processes
    refer then to ideal or pro-chronic time, not to real or historical
    time. Gosse is not trying to prove any specific date for creation, but he
    is
    trying to set a limit to what science can say. If creation is an
    irruption into the cycle of Nature then we cannot reckon backward
    indefinitely. Nor does this pro-chronic view of geology
    interfere with the work of
    the geologists. The facts of geology remain unchanged and the
    geologist can do his work unhampered by the theologian. The only
    word to the geologist from the theologian is to inform the geologist
    that he is working with ideal and not real time.

    Logically it is difficult to get around Gosse, for he claims that all
    the evidence for the reality of the fossils, geologic strata, are simply
    testimonies to the perfection of God's job of antiquating His
    universe. Even Brewster misses this point in a most glaring example of
    failing
    to follow through the logic of the man he is criticising Brewster
    appeals to half-digested food in fossil finds, or foetuses in fossils
    as if these were real items, not ideal. If God antiquated the earth He
    did a
    master job in catching the cycle in situ, as it were, catching such
    things as they are, just as Brewster describes them.

    There is one commendable feature to Gosse, and even Brewster
    admits it, namely, that God at creation would have to make certain
    things appear older than they were. Certainly in the nature miracles
    and healing miracles of Christ there would be a real time and an ideal
    time. To obtain a calm lake one would have to go back several hours
    in the course of the weather and follow through the necessary
    changes from a storm to a calm. Yet when our Lord spoke, those
    intervening changes were omitted. So God in creation started Nature
    in a given point of a cycle.

    The weakness of Gosse's theory is not that we can find some
    indications of real time, but in the thinness of the theory. If the
    earth were perfectly antiquated then it would be impossible to tell the
    difference between (i) a world which actually went through long
    processes of aging, and (ii) a world which was perfectly antiquated.
    If the two are impossible of differentiation, common sense prefers (i)
    over (ii). If we conduct our science and geology on the grounds of a
    world having gone through such a process, it would be rather absurd
    to affirm that it had not really gone through such a process Such a
    scheme as Gosse propounds, clever as it is, is a tacit admission of
    the correctness of geology. Better sense will state that the ideal time
    is
    the real time. If this is done Gosse offers us no basis of the
    reconciliation of geology and Genesis and, therefore, we must look
    elsewhere."

    (Ramm B. "The Christian View of Science and Scripture",
    Paternoster: London, 1955, p133-134).



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