Re: Creation Ex Nihilio and other journals

From: george murphy (gmurphy@raex.com)
Date: Wed Jan 17 2001 - 14:37:15 EST

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    PHSEELY@aol.com wrote:

    > Allen wrote:
    >
    > << The thing we (YECs and I) have in common is that the Bible comes first,
    > because we know we can trust the witness evidence given by men as moved by
    > the Holy Spirit. Observations are valid irregardless of whether the texts
    > are ment to be scientific or not. >>
    >
    > You are still assuming that God _reveals_ history and science in Scripture.
    > If he accommodates his revelation to the science/history of the times, your
    > premise is false. Further, I see no biblical reason to believe that he
    > reveals science or history. Biblical historians refer to their sources as
    > human sources; while prophets refer to their source as direct revelation. I
    > think your basic premise is an autonomous extra-biblical belief; and I have
    > yet to see any evidence that any scientific statement in Scripture is in
    > advance of the science of the times.

            To broaden Paul's point a bit, the argument of Allen (and unfortunately
    many other Christians) amounts to:
            A. The Bible is divinely inspired.
            B. Divine inspiration ensures truth.
            D. All the narratives in the Bible are accurate historical and/or
    scientific accounts of events which have actually taken place.

            What is missing in order for this to be a complete argument is the
    usually unexamined premise:
            C: Only accurate historical and/or scientific accounts of events which
    have actually taken place
    can be truthful narratives.
            And this is false.

    Shalom,

    George

    George L. Murphy
    gmurphy@raex.com
    http://web.raex.com/~gmurphy/



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