That embarassing relative: More on Mungo Man

From: Glenn Morton (glenn.morton@btinternet.com)
Date: Sat Jan 13 2001 - 13:00:31 EST

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    This week's New Scientist has some interesting comments on the implications
    of Mungo man's mtDNA being from ancient people.

            “According to Thorne, the findings—due to be published next week in the
    online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of
    Sciences—threaten to topple the leading theory of human origins, the
    ‘out-of-Africa’ model. This proposes that all living people are descended
    from a group of modern Homo sapiens who left Africa roughly 100,000 to
    150,000 years ago. Their descendants spread around the world replacing
    existing populations of ‘archaic’ people, such as Neanderthals and the more
    ancient Homo erectus.”
            “But if anatomically modern humans—from a lineage that emerged before the
    most recent common ancestor of people today—were living in Australia 60,000
    years ago, ‘a simplistic out-of Africa model is no longer tenable’, says
    Thorne.” Leigh Dayton, “The Man From Down Under,” New Scientist, 169(Jan,
    13, 2001):2273:6

    What the mtDNA evidence proves is that there was interbreeding between
    archaic types of Homo and anatomically modern people. There is no way that
    the guy could have gotten the ancient mtDNA without that interbreeding.
    Interestingly, one of the press reports says that the Kow Swamp individual,
    which dates to aroudn 13,000 years old also showed hints of being from an
    early diverging lineage of mtDNA but that the authors weren't quite
    confident enough in the data.
    (see http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1590695%255E11011,00.html)

    This same report notes that Thorne's data demonstrates interbreeding with
    archaic populations (and thus the production of fertile offspring):

    "In a nutshell, their Regional Continuity model agrees that, yes, archaic
    people began migrating out of Africa about 1.5 million years ago. But
    instead of being supplanted by new, improved humans -- who went on to
    colonise the planet -- those first "almost" people continued, together, down
    the evolutionary path to full human status. They did this with a little
    hanky-panky -- that is, by interbreeding with one another. Eventually, we
    evolved from them ... or so the theory goes." (see
    http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1590695%255E11011,00.html)

    In an article last year, Relethford and Jorde commented on the status of
    genetic evidence concerning the much maligned multiregional view of human
    origins. They wrote:

            “What conclusions can be made at this point? We feel that the genetic
    evidence in the present study and elsewhere argues for a dominant role of
    Africa in the origin of modern humans. It is less clear, however, whether
    only Africa was involved in the transition from archaic to modern humans; it
    seems possible that there has been some non-African admixture.” John H.
    Relethford and Lynn B. Jorde, “Genetic Evidence for Larger African
    Population Size During Recent Human Evolution,” American Journal of Physical
    Anthropology, 108(1999):251-260, p. 258
    **
    The multiregional model is frequently portrayed as postulating genetic input
    from all major geographic regions and further requiring that genetic input
    be greatest within each region. This portrayal is incorrect. In the most
    general sense, multiregional evolution requires only that there be some
    genetic input from outside of Africa, not necessarily from all regions
    outside of Africa.” John H. Relethford and Lynn B. Jorde, “Genetic Evidence
    for Larger African Population Size During Recent Human Evolution,” American
    Journal of Physical Anthropology, 108(1999):251-260, p. 258

    Thus, the much maligned multiregionalism is maligned for merely believing
    that there was genetic admixture which is another term for interbreeding.

    One report notes that the mtDNA of one of Lake Mungo man's ancestors may
    have been inserted into modern humans long, long ago.

    "But not only was LM3's mtDNA totally unknown to science, it contained
    another breathtaking surprise for the researchers. They noticed that a small
    bit of his mtDNA resembled a so-called "insert", a tiny stretch of bases
    often found on chromosome 11 in the nuclear DNA of contemporary people. "
            "Previous studies of the prevalence and distribution of the peculiar
    sequence, done by other scientists, had suggested that the insert was a
    relic, deep from our evolutionary past. It must be quite old, they
    estimated, older than the most recent common ancestor of all living people.
    Yet no one knew just how old, or where the genetic relic came from. Had the
    Australians, purely by chance, stumbled upon the source of the mysterious
    insert?
            "It's quite possible, says team member Simon Easteal, an evolutionary
    geneticist at ANU's John Curtin School of Medical Research.
            " 'The sequence from LM3 is related to the insert,' he says.
            "'This suggests that someone related to LM3 was the source of the insert,
    which moved into the nuclear DNA of another person at some point in time. We
    can't say where that first person lived, probably in Asia, New Guinea, or
    possibly Australia.' "(see
    http://news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,1590695%255E11011,00.html)

    Thus, we find that an ancient mtDNA was inserted into the nuclear DNA of
    some humans. In order for it to be inserted, it had to have been in their
    bodies. Lake Mungo man shows where it came from. But, if this mtDNA was in
    Asia prior to the arrival of anatomically modern men, what ancient hominid
    could it have come from? H. erectus or the transitional form, archaic Homo
    sapiens are the only possibilities. Both of these are not anatomically
    modern. Unfortunately for those who wish to maintain the concept that we
    couldn't have interbred with H. erectus, the only known 60,000 year plus
    fossils found in Southeast Asia are H. erectus. This includes the 38,000
    year old Ngandong H. erectus. The earliest anatomically modern human found
    in Southeast Asia/Australia is Mungo man. Where did he get his mtDNA?
    Probably from H. erectus. This again, is another piece of evidence that
    there was interbreeding with creatures, possibly with H. erectus, that
    apologists don't want to admit into the family. We are embarassed by the
    concept that we might be directly ancestral to some of these primitive
    types. THey are our crazy, embarassing relative. But if there was
    interbreeding, then H. erectus was us. He was HUMAN--i.e., that he was both
    part of our ancestry and part of our present day genes. And if H. erectus
    was part of our ancestry, then what is the big deal about the more modern
    Neanderthal? Alan Mann said it very well to New Scientist:

            “The DNA, which is the oldest ever recovered from human remains, shows that
    while the man is completely anatomically modern, he came from a genetic
    lineage that is now extinct. This finding challenges the prevailing theory
    that all modern humans are descended from a group of people who migrated
    from Africa around 100,000 years ago. ‘It’s remarkable—totally unpredicted,’
    says anthropologist Alan Mann of the University of Pennsylvania. ‘What it
    says is that the more we know [about human origins], the more confusing the
    picture becomes.’” Leigh Dayton, “The Man From Down Under,” New Scientist,
    169(Jan, 13, 2001):2273:6

    glenn

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