Re: Creation Ex Nihilo

From: Bill Payne (bpayne15@juno.com)
Date: Wed Jan 10 2001 - 12:09:55 EST

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    On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 23:51:27 +0000 Vernon Jenkins
    <vernon.jenkins@virgin.net> writes:

    > The first question I would like to ask is this: Are you really speaking
    > as a scientist when you claim that "a gas cloud (was) previously
    ejected
    > from the star"? Clearly, no one can have witnessed this event! Thus we
    > don't KNOW that this is a true explanation of the astronomers'
    > observations, and to claim it to be proof that the velocity of light
    has
    > remained constant over the past 170,000 years appears to be wishful
    > thinking on your part.

    From what I understand of SN1987A, it doesn't matter what the origin of
    the spherical shell of gas was. There are some assumptions which may
    affect the result, and I'll admit I still don't completely understand the
    analysis even though Glenn has tried to explain it previously. I think
    the ejection of the gas cloud is reasonable, but I don't think it really
    matters how it got there. The point is that it is there and it may
    indeed provide a yardstick for distance as Glenn maintains.

    I would love to see the flaws in the logic if there are any, or the
    assumptions which may not be valid, but as yet I can't pick any out.

    Bill Payne



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