Re: Creation Ex Nihilio and other journals

From: Bill Payne (bpayne15@juno.com)
Date: Sun Jan 07 2001 - 11:26:06 EST

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    On Sat, 6 Jan 2001 21:02:38 -0700 David F Siemens <dfsiemensjr@juno.com>
    writes:
    > I must disagree with Allen's claim, for YEC only accept those areas of
    > physics which fit their purpose. [snip]
    >
    > I contend that I do not have the option of deciding which of God's
    > physical laws I will accept because they agree with what I want to
    > believe, and which I will reject.

    If you accept God's physical laws as being immutable, then you must
    reject the floating axhead of 2 Kings 6. If you accept that event as a
    miracle, then what rational basis do you have for claiming that God did
    not suspend his physical laws at other times?

    > The list of other scientific matters rejected by YEC is,
    unfortunately,
    > more extensive--the source and cooking of petroleum deposits, the
    amount
    > of vegetable material in coal, massive halite deposits that are
    > incompatible with deposition by a recent Flood, the size of the
    universe
    > (absorption might explain dimming Cepheid variables and novae, but
    > can't produce the Doppler shift), the magnetic pattern of rocks on
    either
    > side of the mid-ocean ridges, etc. Either God misleads or YEC lie.

    Oh really? YECs might say that OECs create a box to contain God within
    the few specified miracles of the Bible, thereby excluding Him from
    interaction with the rest of His creation. Philosophically, there is no
    difference in saying in His Word that He made an axhead float (in
    violation of the law of gravity) and saying that He created the universe
    in six days (in violation of all that other stuff).

    OEC: "Would God lie?" YEC: "Did God stutter?"

    Bill Payne

    Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written
    down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the
    books that would be written. John 21:25



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