Re: The Wedge of Truth : Splitting the Foundations ofNaturalismbyPhillip E...

From: Moorad Alexanian (alexanian@uncwil.edu)
Date: Thu Jun 29 2000 - 11:32:51 EDT

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    If everything is an illusion, why shouldn't the discoveries of the
    neuroscientists be also considered an illusion?

    Moorad

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bryan Cross <crossbr@SLU.EDU>
    To: asa@calvin.edu <asa@calvin.edu>
    Date: Thursday, June 29, 2000 11:01 AM
    Subject: Re: The Wedge of Truth : Splitting the Foundations
    ofNaturalismbyPhillip E...

    >That looks like special pleading to me. If a group of neuroscientists
    discovered
    >that determinism is true, and thus that free choice is an illusion, or that
    >consciousness is an illusion, being reducible to patterns of axonal spikes
    or some
    >other brain phenomena, would we conclude that because their findings
    eliminate
    >features of our existence that give us meaning, therefore those
    neuroscientists
    >must not be whole persons, somehow scant of skill and vision? With this
    rejoinder,
    >opponents of Galileo and Newton could have protected the meaning and
    comfort
    >procured by the richness of the scholastic worldview. We could preserve all
    our pet
    >theories that way, but that's special pleading, any way you slice it. To be
    >successful, any preservation of teleology must not rest on ad hoc
    restrictions on
    >the application of the principle of parsimony. If "whole person" is defined
    (at
    >least in part) as someone who at all costs protects and preserves that
    which gives
    >us meaning, then the restriction below looks to me like special pleading.
    >
    >- Bryan
    >
    >
    >"Howard J. Van Till" wrote:
    >
    >> But Ockham's razor must be used by whole persons with the requisite skill
    >> and breadth of vision. If wielded by the scant of skill or vision it can
    cut
    >> off the very considerations that give meaning to the entirety of life's
    >> experiences.
    >>
    >> Howard Van Till
    >>
    >> ----------
    >> >From: "Bryan R. Cross" <crossbr@SLU.EDU>
    >> >
    >>
    >> > Unfortunately, such a teleology is readily subject to Ockham's razor,
    >> surviving
    >> > only in the rather anemic form as a human projection onto reality a la
    >> Dennett's
    >> > 'intentional stance'.
    >> >
    >> > - Bryan
    >> >
    >> >
    >> > Cmekve@aol.com wrote:
    >> >
    >> >> In a message dated 6/27/00 9:25:19 AM Mountain Standard Time,
    >> >> bivalve@email.unc.edu writes:
    >> >>
    >> >> [snip]
    >> >> << A scientific explanation, such as
    >> >> biological evolution, should be considered an attempt at describing
    how God
    >> >> normally does things. A description of how God does things is not
    valid
    >> >> evidence against God being involved. Evolution is actually a smart
    design
    >> >> for dealing with certain problems.
    >> >>
    >> >> David C. >>
    >> >>
    >> >> Quite so. As B.B. Warfield put it nearly a century ago:
    >> >> "...teleology is in no way inconsistent with...a complete system of
    natural
    >> >> causation. Every teleological system implies a COMPLETE
    'causo-mechanical'
    >> >> explanation as its instrument." [emphasis added]
    >> >>
    >> >> Karl
    >> >> *****************************
    >> >> Karl V. Evans
    >> >> cmekve@aol.com
    >> >
    >



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