Re: Weinberg ant the anthropic principle

From: Jack Haas (haasJ@mediaone.net)
Date: Sat Apr 29 2000 - 06:45:08 EDT

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    Howard's comment on the ownwership of the 'anthropic principles' reminds us
    that 'design arguments' rooted in Rom. 1:20 have (and can) be used by
    atheists and deists as well as theists. Use of such arguments without the
    eye of faith is doomed to falure.
    Jack Haas

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Howard J. Van Till <hvantill@novagate.com>
    To: George Murphy <gmurphy@raex.com>; Inge Frette <inge.frette@geologica.no>
    Cc: <asa@calvin.edu>
    Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2000 9:06 AM
    Subject: Re: Weinberg ant the anthropic principle

    > I see Anthropic Principles as answers to questions of the following sort:
    >
    > If the present state of the universe (with special focus on its diversity
    of
    > both inanimate structures and life forms) is the outcome of formational
    > processes involving only the formational capabilities of entities within
    the
    > universe (that is, without occasional episodes of form-imposing
    > interventions by any extra-natural agent), then what must be the character
    > of the universe?
    >
    > Using one of my favorite bits of vocabulary, the answer contained within
    > most APs is: The Universe must be equipped with a "robust formational
    > economy." That is, the menu of the universe's formational capabilities
    must
    > be sufficiently robust to actualize the full array of inanimate structures
    > and life forms in the course of time. [Call this the "Robust Formational
    > Economy Principle."]
    >
    > But this simply invites the question: How does a universe come to possess
    a
    > robust formational economy? What is the source (or Source) of that
    > astoundingly fruitful menu of formational capabilities?
    >
    > Anthropic Principles give no answer to this question.
    >
    > Naturalism has little to offer beyond, "Well, that's just how it is. It
    > needs no source. Absolute Nothingness just happened to experience a
    > fluctuation and this universe--complete with a robust formational economy
    > adequate to form atoms, molecules, galaxies, stars, planets, cells,
    > organisms and us--just happens to be the result. (See Peter Atkins' _The
    > Creation_ for samples of this type of rhetoric)
    >
    > All persons who see the universe as a Creation, however, can draw from a
    far
    > richer reservoir of answers regarding the Source of this universe,
    including
    > all of its formational capabilities.
    >
    > That's why I am so often struck with an irony in the creation/evolution
    > debate. Preachers of Naturalism presume that they have rightful ownership
    of
    > the Robust Formational Economy Principle. Ironically, Episodic
    Creationists
    > appear to grant that ownership and propose that the Creation is NOT gifted
    > with a robust formational economy, and some of them spend their lives
    > looking for empirical evidence that certain formational capabilities are
    > MISSING from the Creation.
    >
    > But if God is the Source of the Creation's formational economy, why not
    have
    > high expectations that it is robust--gapless--missing no formational
    > capabilities needed to effect the Creator's will for the actualization of
    > all kinds of inanimate structures and life forms in the course of time?
    >
    > In other words, Christians have a far greater right to ownership of
    > Anthropic principles and the Robust Formational Economy Principle than do
    > proponents of Naturalism. It's time to claim that and to stop letting the
    > preachers of Naturalism get by with their shallow claims of ownership.
    >
    > That was one of my theses at the Waco symposium.
    >
    > Howard Van Till
    >
    >



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