you've taken the 101, the most comprehensive of all the courses so give
yourself a chance to digest your training while applying it to your work.
the other courses address specific areas so it may be best to arrive at a
brick wall or two before seeking specific training in those areas. that way
the courses will answer real-world questions than you'll relate to rather
than simply suppling you with fundamentals and theories. let your gut tell
you when you need formal training (or more job experience) and proceed
accordingly. the worst thing you can do is think that Avid courses are
magic pills that will make you a fantastic editor and get you lots of work.
any training you pursue should be part of a larger plan to acquire skill,
experience and knowledge.
it sounds like you've been successful in with your self-training in AE but
if you haven't picked up AE Classroom In A Book by Adobe Press you might
give it a try.
gregg
"Skelton, Kim"
<kskelton@asante.or To: "'GJackson@harpo.com'"
g> <GJackson@harpo.com>, "'avid-l@calvin.edu'"
Sent by: <avid-l@calvin.edu>
avid-l-owner@lists. cc:
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04/13/00 12:31 PM
I am interested in reviewing these "courses" that are being discussed. I
have had the "101" class and feel comfortable editing on the Xpress. But,
I
do want to take it further. As I have mentioned I have taught myself AE
and
still have a lot to learn. Do you have any suggestions or ideas?
Thanks, Kim
Kim Skelton
Media Coordinator
Smullin Health Center / Asante Health System
kskelton@asante.org
541-608-5915
fax 541-680-5853
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From: GJackson@harpo.com [mailto:GJackson@harpo.com]
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2000 10:18 AM
To: avid-l@calvin.edu
Subject: Re: Certified User?!
I'm with you Pete and I really don't get this. we had a similar discussion
regarding the Avid courses, the same conventions apply here. I wouldn't
award a job on any single criterion, the screening process would include
reviewing all attributes. here again, if I'm looking at 2 identical resumes
and the only difference is that one of the applicants had taken Avid
courses or was a "certified user", that might tip the scale. that said, I
am somewhat apprehensive of the motives of establishing a program of this
type. Avid is not the most philanthropic company I've ever seen so I can't
help but wonder what in it for them? will this be truly beneficial to us or
a profit point for Avid. while the Master Editors course has been of great
benefit (from what I hear) to those who have taken it I don't see the chief
benefits to the industry (sorry Steve). most true "master" editors I know
have never taken this course.
gregg
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04/12/00 11:12 AM
In a message dated 4/12/00 5:30:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
martinb@anglepark.com writes:
<< Here's one employer who thinks that this designation is totally
worthless.
In fact, when I see it on someone's resume--and I'm sure I will--I will
skip
it, just like I skip those who trumpet completing the two-day courses at
the
local Avid training school and anything from Full Sail.
>>
Okay, now I have to chime in and say you're being unfair.
If every employer takes your position, how would a would-be Avid editor get
his first job?
I was an experienced linear editor for the in-house production division of
a
Fortune 500 company for a number of years. When I left, the company
unexpectedly announced that everything I had done there involved
proprietary
information and I could not use it in a reel. Also its internal policies
expressly forbade anyone there except Human Resources from giving a
reference
of any kind, and HR was only permitted to give the employment dates and job
title (which, typical of a corporation that size, was not an industry
title).
This put me at an extraordinary disadvantage. I took the Avid 101 course,
Advanced Effects, and the introductory support course on my own (I'd been
trying to get that company to buy an Avid, but to no avail). I found a
production company with a much different attitude that you've expressed
above
for whom I proceeded to work, with great success, for several more years
before starting my own company.
If every employer thought like you did, it seems to me that my career would
have been completely ruined. Wouldn't it? What am I missing here?
Pete
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