Re: Gasket analogy

From: John Burgeson (burgy@compuserve.com)
Date: Thu Apr 06 2000 - 12:22:14 EDT

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    Glenn wrote:

    >>Not so, Burgy. The gasket always appears. There is absolutely no chance
    the
    gasket won't appear--none whatsoever.>>

    I have a real difficulty with that answer, Glenn.

    For instance, I know that in playing bridge, there is "absolutely no
    chance"
    (in a practical sense) that each player will be dealt a one suite hand. Yet
    -- there
    is a remore chance of that happening.

    Likewise with the gasket case. Or any probablistic situation. It is just
    possible that I can begin to toss this quarter I now hold and have it come
    up tails 10,000 times without a single head appearing. Not likely,
    possible. It is
    also possible it will alternate tails/heads in such a way as to specify the
    value of pi to
    any desired accuracy.

    Interestingly, and I speak here from having done computer simulations as
    far back as
    the late 1950s, I think it is not possible, even in principle, to ever
    observe these rare cases
    as outputs from a computer simulation. This is because all known random
    number
    generators are, at best, pseudo random. I suppose one could rig something
    up to
    generate the numbers as results of cosmic rays, or dust mote movements, but
    I think
    there is no way to do so without random outside input.

    Burgy



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