RE: Preprogrammed?

From: Adrian Teo (ateo@whitworth.edu)
Date: Mon Apr 03 2000 - 02:48:16 EDT

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    Glenn wrote:
    <<I am aware that .5 is a poor correlation. Do you have a reference for
    what
    you are saing here? And even if the data you have shows at least some
    improvement in correlation for monzygotic twins.>>

    Plomin, R., Chipuer, H.M., & Loehlin, J. C. (1990). Behavioral genetics and
    personality. In L. Pervin (Ed.), Handbook of Personality: Theory and
    research (pp.225-243). NY: Guilford.

    Plomin and Loehlin are well-known and respected behavior geneticists. They
    have published widely.

    <<The point with the twins anecdotes is that the two twins DIDN:T share a
    history except that of coming from the same womb. Why should two twins
    share
    the trait of wanting to walk backwards into the ocean? I used to have a
    guy
    who worked for me who engaged in the same ritual everyday at quitting
    time.
    He looked at certain places in his room, felt his pockets, reached up to
    turn out the light, then felt his pockets, walked back into his room and
    then finally he would turn out the light and leave. Compulsive? yes.
    Where
    did such compulsions come from? I have been hopelessly addicted to
    science
    since as young as 4 and my mother told me it went back even further.
    Where
    did this compulsion come from? My middle son displayed musical talent
    as
    early 2 years old. He is now working in a church as a music
    director-intern.
    I certainly didn't teach that 2 year old music. My youngest really
    didn't
    care so much for music that young. So, how free were my choices, the
    choices
    of my employee, my children? Not all choices are really free--they are
    in
    part determined by our heredity.>>

    I agree with you that a significant portion of our behavior patterns is
    genetically influenced. But the conclusion that these behaviors are
    therefore not free is problematic because it implies that the genes are
    something not part of the individual. We tend to have this idea of genes as
    independent agents controlling our behavior, and we fail to recognize that
    our genes are in fact, part of who we are. To say that my genes make me do
    something (or strongly influenced me) and therefore I was not exercising my
    free will is something like saying that my hand (or brain, or leg or finger)
    did it, not I.

    To be free is to act in accordance with our nature, and the genes we have
    are part of our nature. Of course, I recognize that you may disagree with my
    understanding of freedom. If so, then how do you understand free will?



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