>>>Nelson: I have found that most of these debates are really people talking
past each other.
>>>Paul Robson: I agree, Nelson. But DNA and Steve seem to think that what
they write is what "Creationists say" about 2LT. Most of them don't, they
just use the simple version they have copied from a Morrisian tome.
>>>DNAunion: I disagree. It is my opponents that lable my arguments as
being Creationist: I vehemently deny it, but usually to no avail.
>>>Paul Robson: Nelson's point again holds up. Whatever you and Steve Jones
write was not the point I was making ; which was what "Creationists is
general" say.
This kind of thing "But because I am skeptical about nature's ability, alone,
to generate a functioning cell from a random pool of simple organics"
certainly sounds like the classic creationist argument, doesn't it ;-)
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DNAunion: No, it sounds like a classic *skeptic's* argument.
Nowhere in that phrase (or in my other posts ) have I (1) quoted the Bible,
(2) called upon God to create things ex nihilo, (3) claimed that Noah's flood
was real and that it accounts for the fossil record, (4) claimed the Earth is
only 6,000 to 10,000 years old, (5) claimed that the universe was created in
6 literal days, (6) claimed that the Earth was created in a "mature" form,
with fully-formed mountains, valleys, oceans, streams, etc. existing from day
one, (7) stated that evolution violates the 2nd law, (8) etc.
So we get a chance to see that once again, as I said, "It is my opponents
that lable my arguments as being Creationist: I vehemently deny it, but
usually to no avail."
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>>>Paul Robson: PS: I do subscribe to the evolution reflector so I'll read
it if it is sent there. You might get the odd accidental private email
because it defaults to sending it to the message originator, not the server.
Regards, PSR
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DNAunion: PS: I would like to add that if anyone sends me a PRIVATE e-mail
that they do not want me to post at the PUBLIC site, that they explicitly
state in the header/title (just preface the title, like "PRIVATE: Johnson and
the 2nd Law" ), or somewhere in the e-mail, that the e-mail is private. I
still use my personal e-mail - and not the Calvin site on the web - to answer
posts and this 99% public/1% private thing is not what I am used to.
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