DNAunion: I have asked Huxter twice now if he is also Pantrog, and he
refuses to answer. Why? Because he would have to either be truthful - and
by doing so, accept the vile and abusive actions of Pantrog - or lie a fear
being found out: it is a lose-lose situation for him, so he just avoids the
question and tries to turn the tables on me.
It no longer matters whether or not Huxter will answer - I found the
evidence.
Huxter (the person who incorrectly accused me of posting under multiple names
at ARN and possibly here, trying to cause problems for me from day one)
posted as both Pangloss and Pantrog at ARN, and e-mailed me during that time
as Huxter in relation to ARN discussions. At MetaCrock's, Huxter posted as
both Pantrog and HandJobFromYourMom.
In "evolution/creation/ID" debates on the internet, Huxter goes by, or has
gone by, the names (1) Huxter, (2) Pantrog, (3) Pangloss, and (4)
HandJobFromYourMom. What a hypocrite.
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PANTROG IS PANGLOSS
08/31/2000 10:55 AM
http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=65
Note: As of 10/23/2000 at 9:00 PM, this post had not been edited by Pantrog.
If the contents do not match what I provide below, look for a comment such as
"This post has been edited", which would indicate that Pantrog went back and
edited the post.
In one of the last 3 sentences, Pantrog states he originally posted at ARN
under the name PANGLOSS.
>>>Pantrog: Hmmm…. Sounds like ARN and any creationist site out there. This
'board' at TO may very well limit the topics, I don't know. But I have
noticed that creationists tend to only post for any length of time on boards
controlled by friendlies.. That way, when they see that they are in a jam,
they just call on their moderator pals to delete the offending poster.
Happens all the time. I was originally banned at the ARN board under the name
pangloss for daring to ask the moderator why he felt the need to delete only
the posts of evolutionists. For that sin, I was banned. I later got an email
from Paul Nelson telling me that I could come back, but that I would have to
be nice to the moderator. Style over substance.
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PANTROG IS HUXTER
06/08/2000 11:10 AM
http://www.arn.org/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000169.html
>>>Pantrog: Besides, I emailed you an argument I wanted to finish up, and you
never responded.
>>>DNAunion: That's news to me! I never received any e-mails from a "Pantrog"
at my AOL account. Now I did get some from a "Huxter something", is that
you? If so, why would you be sneaky by concealing your identity throughout
the short series of e-mails, and why would you now have the audacity to
accuse me of not responding to you specifically?
Pantrog: Sneaky? Concealing? I figured a wiz like you might have been able
to tell who it was since I was addressing points specifically addressed by
you in responses to me. Audacity? Well - you never did respopnd to the post
in question - my response which I emailed to you - which you again haven't
responded to. Of course, I realize you are so busy posting to this forum...
>>>DNAunion: So either I never received anything from you, or you
communicated to me under the pseudonym of Huxter. But I told Huxter (after
replying to several of his/her e-mails) that I was going to stop responding
via my personal e-mail account and only answer questions posted at ARN.
Either way, you have nothing to gripe about.
Pantrog: Who is griping? Pseudonym? That was the screenname of the account I
was using at the time. I guess that I should have typed in large font that it
was me. Yes - you said you didn't want to email me back. Odd....
snip mental masturbation...
…
Oh - all of this is about abiogenesis? Who cares? If all you want to carry on
about is abiogenesis, go ahead. Evolution cares not one way or the other - it
occurs whether some spaceman created everything or not...
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PANTROG IS HANDJOBFROMYOURMOM
08/30/2000 06:03 AM
http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=60.topic&index=62
Note: As of 10/23/2000 at 9:00 PM, this post had not been edited by Pantrog.
If the contents do not match what I provide below, look for a comment such as
"This post has been edited", which would indicate that Pantrog went back and
edited the post.
The name might strike people as odd. Here is a summary. Pat, my arch enemy
as MetaCrock's site, went out of the way to work the word Anus into the
discussion, then said something like, "Speaking of anuses, I could make a
joke about DNAunion, but I won't". Sorry, but that WAS a joke about DNAunion
and anuses. I objected. Pantrog started posting at the site and thought up
a really clever and mature name for me, DNAnus. Get it? After reading
several of his posts where he directly called me this, I decided to respond
likewise and tried to come up with a similar mangling of his name PanTrog - I
came up with HandJob. To that, he decided to "one up" me by creating another
personality at the site named HandJobFromYourMom and use it reply to me.
Okay, now you know the background, here's the post.
>>>HandJobFromYourMom: You see, DNanus, name calling doesn't bother me in the
least. I am not - as are most creationists - more concerned with style than
substance. I have not addressed your hypotheticals and biased interpretations
of the work of others and I don't intend to. You see, unlike you and ID
advocates and other creationists, I do not present or portray myself as being
'expert' enough on any and all scientific fields to make unassailable
comments.
I did notice that you had no comments on the tactics of the ARN crowd....
Glass houses and all, I suppose....
Since you made a laundry list elsewhere of what you do and do not
believe/accept, I am really unable to see just what you are arguing against.
You say you accept descent - even the dreaded macrtoevolution! And yet you
write ad nauseum about how this and that musta been designed. What gives? It
appears that what you are really arguing against is abiogenesis. As such, I
don't see why you would want to align yourself with the likes of the ARN/DI
propagandists. One would have to be a gullible fool to really think that
Dembski et al. are NOT fundy types with a religio-political agenda to push.
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DNAunion: Now, as a very small sampling of the kind of posts Pantrog/Huxter
was making at MetaCrock's, I present this small snippet from just one of his
posts. Note particularly his last several sentences.
http://pub18.ezboard.com/fhavetheologywillarguescienceandreligiousbelief.showM
essage?topicID=73.topic&index=9
09/20/2000 08:15 AM
Note: As of 10/23/2000 at 9:00 PM, this post had not been edited by Pantrog.
If the contents do not match what I provide below, look for a comment such as
"This post has been edited", which would indicate that Pantrog went back and
edited the post.
…
>>>Pantrog: I still do not see why you consider the article to be ad hom.
Perhaps because it puts the man you worship with in a less than Godly light?
I find it comical that creationists like you prefer arguing personalities
rather than science. Oh, I know - you and your other screen names on occasion
post lengthy, self-congratulatory critiques of other peoples' work and call
it 'evidence' of this or that, but it seems mostly you brown nosers spend the
bulk of your time propping up your heroes and each other. I was sickened
reading through some of the old ARN posts - it sounds like half the lay-ID
advocates want to suck Mike Genes dick. "Great job Mike!" "Great post, Mike!
Keep them coming!" Give me a break….
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