Re: Schutzenberger

From: Chris Cogan (ccogan@telepath.com)
Date: Tue Oct 17 2000 - 02:01:19 EDT

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    Susan
    >David Bradbury (or Stephen Jones, I couldn't find the original post):
    >
    >>2) Your following citation also brings up another interesting, but unrelated
    >>thought.
    >>
    >>"Despite a close watch, we have witnessed no new species emerge in the
    >>wild in
    >>recorded history. Also, most remarkably, we have seen no new animal
    >>species emerge
    >>in domestic breeding. That includes no new species of fruitflies
    >>in hundreds
    >>of millions of generations in fruitfly studies, where both soft and harsh
    >>pressures
    >>have been deliberately applied to the fly populations to induce speciation.
    >>And in computer life, where the term "species" does not yet have
    >>meaning, we see
    >>no cascading emergence of entirely new kinds of variety beyond an initial
    >>burst. In
    >>the wild, in
    >>breeding, and in artificial life, we see the emergence of variation. But
    >>by the
    >>absence of greater change, we also clearly see that the limits of
    >>variation appear
    >>to be narrowly bounded, and often bounded within species. ... No one has yet
    >>witnessed, in the fossil record, in real life, or in computer life, the exact
    >>transitional moments when natural selection pumps its complexity up to
    >>the next
    >>level.
    >>There is a suspicious barrier in the vicinity of species that either
    >>holds back
    >>this critical change or removes it from our sight. (Kelly K.,"Out of
    >>Control: The
    >>New Biology of Machines", 1995, p475)
    >>. . .

    Chris
    Susan, remind me to try to locate my copy of Kelly's book. It's a good
    book, but Kelly's not an authority on biology. His book is about
    *computers* and such.



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