RE: science can study the effect of an Intelligent Designer on the natural

Jason Bode (jason_bode@hotmail.com)
Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:45:10 PDT

Pim,

>>SJ: The fact is that this "cruelty to each other and a callous >>neglect"
>>has escalated as society becomes less Christian and more >>materialistic.
>Unsupported assertion and unproven correlation. Dear Stephen, your >faith
>needs some backing up with reality. Until then your unsupported >assertions
>are worth little more than the paper they are written on.

Since they were written on a computer ... hmmmm ... ;)

>What about the killing of abortionists by Christians ? What about the
> >massacres in Serbia?

What about the abortions themselves? I'll say the killing of abortion
doctors by people who called themselves Christians was wrong, but I'll also
say that abortion is just as wrong. And what about the massacres in Serbia?
Are Christians responsible for them? How about the problems there've been in
Ethiopia and Eritrea? Or Rwanda? Iraq? India and Pakistan?

>Christianity hardly has a reason to be proud of its track record and
> >certainly there is no proof that christianity is more moral or that a
> >christian society is more moral than a non-christian one. In fact, >the
>Netherlands which is far less religious than the US has a far >better track
>record.

Prove it. You're trying to use specific occurrences that seem to support
your point. Prove that Christianity shouldn't be proud of its track record.
I agree there have been some problems stemming from it before, but prove
this is a 'track record'? Where are your facts about how religious each
country is? Did you ask a significant % of the population whether they were
religious or not? Did someone else?

>Perhaps you should consider trying to get some facts?

Remember that yourself.

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