RE: Two Complementary faces of establishment science

Pim van Meurs (entheta@eskimo.com)
Mon, 21 Jun 1999 23:45:29 -0700

Tyler: It is interesting to see evolutionists calling fellow evolutionists to account for their lapses towards 'direction', 'internal drive', or 'purpose'. Maybe the reason biologists find this concept so hard to
shed is more than cultural baggage - maybe they find the indications of design compelling!

Wishful thinking perhaps? Furthermore without an understanding of how these terms were used, it is too easy to confuse them with ID. Perhaps it is the hopes of design proponents which make them interpret these signs as such. Not too hard to understand that they will cling to any hope, when the hopes that ID will prove itself scientific are fading as fast as they came into the limelight.

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Tyler: The Christian contribution is to point out that man's fallen state has affected his thinking.

I guess we have an explanation for YEC'ism after all?

Tyler: The philosophy of naturalism is the choice of people who are in a state of alienation from God.

As is YEC'ism. Ironic... But even more not a very useful concept in science either.

Tyler: These philosophical roots then permeate the intellectual trees that grow up from them. The Christian has a different foundation: our thinking is to be rooted in Theism and the cosmos we study as scientists is to be understood as the creation of God. The challenge for us is to develop scientific ideas worthy of these roots.

I fail to see how such "understanding of faith" can add anything to science. Personally I see the unnecessary mixture of religious faith and science to be the downfall of both.

But I would be interested to see what you think such ideas would be? What would these ideas contribute to scientific understanding? And should we also include other religious roots in our science?

So far I see no Christian contributions to science as envisioned by the author.