Re: Scientists reject God

Kevin O'Brien (Cuchulaine@worldnet.att.net)
Fri, 4 Dec 1998 18:02:44 -0700

Apparently then one of us is being lied to; that's the only way we can have
such opposite views of the nature of the NAS based only on what we are being
told. Of course, I have met other members through my friends and I have
been invited by my friends to attend a few meetings over the years, where I
again had a chance to meet with and talk to still more members. What I saw
and heard on those occassions is what has formed the basis of my view of the
NAS; in other words, I have had direct experience. And I can assure you
that, while the membership is very proud of its status in the eyes of the
public, only a minority of the members are truly "leading" scientists. The
NAS does a good job of maintaining that image, but it is still just an
image.

By the way, whether you meant to give that impression or not, your
description of how new members are "elected" suggests that scientists are
selected for membership without their consent; that once chosen they are
required to be members whether they want to be or not. Obviously you didn't
mean that, but your rebutal to my description that new members are invited
to join suggests this alternative view. In fact, once a new scientist is
elected for membership he is then issued an invitation to join. He may
decline if he wishes; as I understand it a fair number have. The same
people tend to get elected each time, until they become members or they
decline often enough that their names are withdrawn from consideration. I
was told that's why I've been issued so many invitations (that and my
friends keep my name in circulation). Membership is certainly an honor, but
it is not the divine acension to the Olympus of science you make it out to
be. Again, it is your affair whether you believe me or not, but perhaps the
next time I am invited to join I will do so, so that I can speak with the
authority of an actual member.

As such, based on my direct experience with the NAS, as well as the
"intimate" knowledge of it that I have acquired from its members, I continue
to maintain that the poll says more about the general opinion of the NAS
(which I tend to agree with based on what I know) than it does the general
opinion of "leading" scientists.

Kevin L. O'Brien