And if saltier, it would make it more difficult for even oceanic fish to
survive.
>
> That means that every bit of salt in the
>>sedimentary rocks would be dissolved in the oceans prior to the deposition
>>of the first and lowest flood layer, the Cambrian.
>
>Why? The "fountains of the deep" (some of which I believe contributed
>mineral-rich waters) were not closed till the 150th day (Gen 8:1-4). They
>all may have opened on the first day (Gen 7:11), but that doesn't mean that
>they discharged everything they had all at once.
First off, any statement about the 'fountains of the deep' providing
mineral rich water is merely speculation. It doesn't say that in the
Bible. Given that, in order to make your case, you must be able to
identify exactly where the waters came from and then show that minerals
should be expected from those waters.
>
>
> There are huge salt
>>deposits found in the middle of the sedimentary column and this MUST
>>represent the removal of salt from the flood waters, which means that prior
>>to their removal the oceans were saltier. Huge salt deposts are found in
>>Kansas, Texas, Northern Europe (Rotliegendes), throughout the Himalayas,
>>along the east coast of the United States and Canada (the Argo Salt) and
>>many many other places. There are also other salts (other than NaCl) which
>>would dissolved in the flood waters.
>
>Yes. And that removal was probably not by evaporation (the deposits are
>too pure) but by vast precipitation from supersaturated solution in those
>areas.
These salts are not as pure as you would expect. They contain the types of
life (algae and fungi) that would be expected from a desiccating basin.
"Samples of diapiric and bedded salt from the Gulf Coastal Province were
studied for their pollen-spores content. Twenty-four different species
were observed among them one new genus Gordoniella atwateri. The
microfloral remains also include forms of algae (Chroolepidaceae or
Mikrothyriaceae) and fungi.
"The phytologic data obtained indicate a Rhaetic-Liassic (late
Triassic-early Jurassic) age for the diapiric salt of Texas (Grand Saline),
Louisiana (Winnfield, Avery Island, Weeks Island, Jefferson Island), and
the bedded salt (Louann Salt) in northern Louisiana. There seems to be no
difference in age between the salt in the interior belt of salt domes and
the one stretching along the coastal region. The Louann salt is most
probably the mother source bed from which the tremendous amount of diapiric
salt originated."~Ulrich Jux, The Palynologic Age of Diapiric and Bedded
Salt, Department of Conservation, Louisiana Geological Survey, Geological
Bulletin 38, October, 1961, p. 1
It has always seemed strange to me that during the violent global flood,
not a single fish or marine dinosaur would stumble into these supposed
precipitational spots, yet algae and fungi could.
Another deposit contains meteoritic dust in quantities consistent with what
would be expected from a slowly evaporating basin.
"The sedimentation rate of the A-1 Evaporite of Michigan was determined by
analysis of micrometeorites found as inclusions in the halite deposit. The
samples were obtained from the Dow Chemical Company salt well number eight.
The residue from the dissolved salt was magnetically separated and later
analyzed by Particle Induces X-ray Emission (PIXE), x-ray diffraction, and
microprobe techniques. The amount of extraterrestrial material was
determined from the quantity of nickel present.
"A sedimentation rate of .01 to .4 centimeters per year was calculated for
the salt based on a constant influx rate of meteoritic material of 1 x 10 4
tons per year. This sedimentation rate is much slower than previously
reported sedimentation rates for salt. This relatively slow sedimentation
rate and the close association of hydrocarbons with salt suggests that the
original hydrocarbon content of petroleum-producing evaporite basins may be
much greater than previously believed."
~James Matthew Barnett, Sedimentation Rate of Salt Determined by
Micrometeorite Analysis, M. S. Thesis, Western Michigan University, 1983,
p. i.
And this rate is as I noted, consistent with what we find coming in from
space:
"Abundances of magnetic spherules in 26 Silurian and Permian salt samples
are very similar to abundances in recent collections from the atmosphere.
This suggests that meteoritic influx has been constant for the three
periods of time sampled."~Thomas A. Mutch, "Abundances of Magnetic
Spherules in Silurian and Permian Salt Samples", Earth and Planetary
Science Letters, 1 1966 p. 325
The Silurian salt was from the International Salt Co., Inc. Mine at Detroit
Michigan. The Permian specimens from Carey Salt Co. Mine Hutchinson, Kansas
the American Salt Corp. Mine, Lyons, Kansas and the International Mineral
and Chemical Corp. Mine Carlsbad, New Mexico.
>
>
> So, if you are going to choose
>>adapatation, you must have instantaneous adaptability from the preflood,
>>supposedly freshwater diatoms.
>
>Not necessarily. We don't know the exact salinity of all the ancient
>upland lakes -- we needn't assume that they were all freshwater.
Very ad hoc answers. Explain how the diatoms could survive the acid I
mentioned?
>
>
> They must have been able to immediately
>>live in waters much saltier than the present oceans, AND handle strongly
>>acidic, mercury-laden waters.
>
>We can't assume uniform rates of addition of toxins, or their uniform
>mixing. Distribution of ores shows that these things were localized both
>geographically and stratigraphically. So I don't believe that the whole
>ocean was poisoned. Billions of diatoms died, presumably because they hit
>conditions they could not live in. But others evidently have survived.
>
>
>> You are actually suggesting a miracle.
>
>
>That any of us is here is a miracle.
>
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>K
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