Re: half-evolved feather pt 2

Ron Chitwood (chitw@flash.net)
Thu, 16 Apr 1998 19:14:38 -0500

>>>Consider Morris and Parker's statement:<<<

They wrote in 1987. Your so-called 'evidence' for a half-feather,
half-scale creature was written in 1996 and even they were not sure of
exactly what they discovered.

Since you are so fond of quotes. let me give one from Michael Denton's book
EVOLUTION: A THEORY IN CRISIS, pp. 209. He quotes from B.J. Stahl
VERTEBRATE HISTORY: PROBLEMS IN EVOLUTION, pp349. "how they (feathers)
arose initially, presumably from reptiles scales, defies analysis." Now
who should I believe? Your quote or Denton?

>>>When an apologist ignores data like the above, they make our children
> vulnerable to the atheist because all the atheist has to do is point out
> what I have pointed out, i.e. that the statements " there is no fossil
> evidence" are factually erroneous. And then the atheist says, "If they
are
> wrong on this issue why aren't they wrong about the Bible?" And like a
> perjuror in court, once caught in error, (especially unadmitted error) it
is
> harder to regain credibility.<<<

The whole concept of macroevolution is an error. When schoolchildren are
confronted with the bias and preconditioned macroevolutionary responses and
see, really see, what flimsy supports it really has they turn from science
to other pursuits, unless they go along with the 'Emperor's New Clothes'
idea that permeates our higher education philosophy at present. By the
way, there is no 'fossil evidence'. Even your quote indicates it is just
'possible' not a confirmed, scientific fact. Your posts seem to assume its
a fact, not a possibility. It is wrong for you to make it so.

Trust in the LORD with all your heart,
and do not rely on your own insight.. Pr. 3:5
Ron Chitwood
chitw@flash.net

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> From: Glenn Morton <grmorton@waymark.net>
> To: Ron Chitwood <chitw@flash.net>; evolution@calvin.edu
> Subject: Re: half-evolved feather pt 2
> Date: Thursday, April 09, 1998 4:48 AM
>
> At 05:49 AM 4/9/98 -0500, Ron Chitwood wrote:
> >GM>>>"Longisquama insignis is a remarkable, tiny (some 50 millimeters[2
in]
> >long)
> >presumed thecodont from the late Triassic of Turkestan and the only
known
> >reptile to possess scales that show a possible intermediacy with
feathers.
> >The tiny specimen is preserved in its entirety, crushed on a slab. it
> >exhibits an antorbital fenestra, a well-developed furcula, and long
keeled,
> >overlapping body scales." Alan Feduccia, The Origin and Evolution of
Birds,
> >1996, p. 87<<<
> >
> >The normal wishful thinking of a macroevolutionist.
>
> Ron,
>
> Are you implying that it is fine for Christian apologists to make any
> statement whatsoever even if it violates the known facts?
>
> Part of my point in that fossil is that while it may be fine to disagree
> that this is evidence of a half evolved feather, it is NOT alright for
Davis
> and Kenyon to claim that there is NO evidence of half evolved feather.
> There is evidence, but one might not wish to accept it.
>
>
> Consider Morris and Parker's statement:
>
> "There are no true transitional forms (that is, in the sense of
> forms containing incipient, developing or transitional structures
> - such as half- scales/half feathers, or half-legs/ half wings)
> anywhere among all the billions of known fossil forms." ~Henry M.
> Morris and Gary E. Parker, What is Creation Science?, (El Cajon:
> Master Books, 1987), p. 11
>
>
> This is fossil evidence which can be interpreted as a half-evolved
feather
> and the legs of Ichthyostega were half evolved legs because they could
not
> support the weight of the animal (for details see my web page
> http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/transit.htm
>
> When an apologist ignores data like the above, they make our children
> vulnerable to the atheist because all the atheist has to do is point out
> what I have pointed out, i.e. that the statements " there is no fossil
> evidence" are factually erroneous. And then the atheist says, "If they
are
> wrong on this issue why aren't they wrong about the Bible?" And like a
> perjuror in court, once caught in error, (especially unadmitted error) it
is
> harder to regain credibility.
>
> By doing what they are doing, they are doing their best to make the Bible
false!
>
> glenn
>
> Adam, Apes, and Anthropology: Finding the Soul of Fossil Man
>
> and
>
> Foundation, Fall and Flood
> http://www.isource.net/~grmorton/dmd.htm
>