Baugardner paper

Jim Bell (JamesScottBell@compuserve.com)
Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:57:51 -0500

Just got hold of three papers presented by John Baumgardner at the
Third International Conference on Creationism, July, 1994

You'll recall my passing along a snippet of an e-mail message,
wherein Baumgardner offers a summary solution to the "heat problem" Glenn
referenced. Baumgardner then said the "numbers were there for all to see"
in his papers.

Glenn pounced on this, as is his wont, and wondered if that was
merely a dodge.

Well, I can now assure Glenn the numbers ARE there in "Runaway
Subduction as the Driving Mechanism for the Genesis Flood." There are
plenty of them, too, along with "snapshots" of computer modeling and
nineteen references to specialized literature, including an article by a
guy named G. R. Morton, entitled, "The Flood on an Expanding Earth,"
Creation Research Society Quarterly, 19 (1983), pp. 219-224!! (Baumgardner
cites this example only to point out there are serious difficulties with
it, along with other proposed solutions, and then he proposes his
alternative.)

Anyway, Baumgardner is not hiding anything as far as I can see.
True, it takes a specialist to crunch the numbers, but at least they are
out there. Here is the abstract:

<<Experimental investigation of the solid state deformation properties of
silicates at high temperatures has revealed that the deformation rate
depends on the stress to a power of 3 to 5 as well as strongly on the
temperature. This highly nonlinear behavior leads to the potential of
thermal runaway of the mantle's cold upper boundary layer as it peel away
from the surface and sinks through the hot mantle. The additional fact that
the mineral phase changes that occur at 660 km depth act as a barrier to
convective flow an lead to a tendency for large episodic avalanche events
compounds the potential for catastrophic dynamics. Two-dimension finite
element calculations are presented that attempt to model these strongly
nonlinear phenomena. It is proposed that such a runaway episode was
responsible for the Flood described in Genesis and resulted in massive
global tectonic change at the earth's surface.>>

Jim